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I have been looking at this new outlaw receiver but am not sure which way i should go.. get this receiver for $599 or get a cheaper one like newcastle, pioneer, sony and then add the hk 5800 to is and still keep it under $600 any information and recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Armand
Ironic that you stated this as this is what I'm contemplating (I have already bought the amps the pre-pro is the killer). The great thing about the Outlaw is that it has a 5-way cross-over (80-90-100-110-120hz) if you use sub/sats but I wonder if you use towers if you would be better off with something else. I have heard the HK5800 and was not really to impressed (seemed congested on a set of Nhts) so I went on the used market and got the following amps:AudioSource 5.1 paid $80 which included shipping (used)
AudioSource Amp1 paid $199 which included shipping (new spidergear.com)
Adcom GFA 535 paid $150 which included shipping (used at Yahoo auction)My local dealer is offering the HK5800 for $700 (display model) so I know this is not grey, refurb, or B stock and was wondering with all the low prices (JandR) how good of a quality item this really is. The cosmetics and build appears to be excellent but I thought the performance wasn't up to par (system involved monster THX cables/interconnects, Nht SuperOnes front, Nht SuperCenter, Nht rears {dipoles, can't remember the model}, and Nht sub1 on an HK DD preamp). I used a laser pointer (adjust toe-in), DVD Essentials (balance speakers at listening level), RS SPL meter, and an IASCA test disc (to help adjust cross-over of the sub and play some familiar tracks for tonality) to calibrate the system and for source I used a Wilson Audio Magnum Opus (separation of the pipes were hard to tell 3 out of 5), Dusk til Dawn DVD (clean dialogue at the beginning convience store shoot-out 5 out of 5), and Saving Private Ryan (chap 2-4 great detail and good thudding of mg 4 out of 5). The only problem I had with the HK is for music but for movies it was better than most AVRs under a $1000.
If so I have one, and I paid no where near $700 a year ago. I got it at J&R for $440 including tax. I replaced an Acurus DIA100 I was using to power 2 NHT 2.5s It in no way matched that amplifier, but it does a fine job for movies. I have a Levinson on my audio system, so it's hard to go from music to movies at home, but it does the trick. Guests are just awed anyway, but I do find it fatiguing.I too am considering the Outlaw receiver to replace my yamaha 990 receiver I'm using as 2 additional amps channels & my preamp. For $599 you can't beat it, if I could only sell my old projector to finance it! (anyone interested in a slightly beatup Zenith Pro851X for a STEAL?) I have dealt with the President of Outlaw on a number of occasions & he really is quite a gentleman, and a great businessman. I may wait for the Outlaw Preamp he spoke about when I questioned him about the receiver.
Yep, sure was refering to the Harmon as the local dealers here in Kansas does a minimal amount of mark-down. I saw the same deal at JandR for $299 + shipping. I have been doing mostly internet shopping (and recently buying) as it seems I could get things for 50% or less on the net. The only thing that I'm reluctant about buying are AVRs just based on horror stories reported at various sites if a problem arises, grey market, or refurbs (I fear more the software problems than the hardware). I would consider Outlaw since you deal directly to product headquaters instead of the middle-man and have yet read a bad review about their customer service. Since you stated that you talked about their pre-pro with their president what kind of info did you gather (does it have various cross-over settings if so what are they).
I got no real information about details, but I would assume it has the same base capabilities of the receiver.
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