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I'm looking to buy my first wide screen HDTV unit in the next six - 12 months. The technologies appear to be
1. conventional projection
2. DLP projection
3. LCD panel
4. PLasma
5. Direct view flat conventional tubeWhats the latest take on each of these. In the 50 inch size I see conventional projection units for $1200-$1500. DLP runs about $3000. I think HHGregg had a 50 inch LCD panel in Sundays paper for around $3000 . Plasma sets still seem to be $5000 in 50 inch HDTV tho EDTV is cheaper. I only see conventional tubes up to 34 inch and these run $1500 but are bigger ones on the way?
I gather one of these technologies might prevail, but I'm no longer convinced it will be plasma. Both the DLP and the LCD are intriging.
What technology do you guys think will ultimately win out with consumers? I don't see a big demand for $5000 TV sets.I'm stumped. The LCD panals I've had on computers seem to work very well and are reliable. I've heard bad things about plasma reliability over the long haul. This TV will replace a big Sony console from the early 80s so I tend to keep this stuff a long time if it continues to work.
Thanks for any advice.
David
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There are several errors in this thread. Do some reading and searching there and you'll feel a whole lot better.
There are plenty of good forums to get accurate information, and you can also receive incorrect information at any forum including AVS. I haven't read this thread completely, I can't say which is true on that note. But I do know the readers don't necessarily have to go anywhere to get solid information. They do need to be intelligent enough to sort out what seems valid or not, and then do some validation and make some personal judgements about what to believe, just as you would anywhere.Lex
There is no perfect display...yet. But TVs have come quite a long way since you bought your expiring Sony.There advantages and disadvantages with all current commercial technologies depending on source material, budget, the room/light conditions, ease of use and personal preference. There will be some trade-offs with any set you choose, be it DLP, CRT, LCD LCoS or plasma - but I guarantee you will find something that will greatly please you. Whether it looks equally good displaying both analog and digital sources is another topic.
Be sure to consider upgrading your DVD player/cable or sat box and cabling when you do purchase the new display - and DO budget some douigh for an ISF calibration - it can make a substantial improvement in your PQ. At the very least, purchase a calibration DVD such as AVIA or Video Essentials.
Happy hunting - you're gonna have some fun.
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If Space is not an issue , go with CRT. It will provide at least as good , if not better , picture quality, and has a much better chance of reliability and longevity. It makes no difference if in 3 years DLP,LCD, or Plasma moves to the forefront. You are spending your hard earned money now. LCD's are prone to pixel burnout, DLP's need bulb replacing every 2-3000 hours, and Plasmas are way over priced .
Why anyone would want to deal with this, when CRT offers equal or superior picture quality is beyond me. By the way , Plasmas will eventually win out, but it will take several years for the prices to level out. Plasmas will win , becuase it intrigues the "average joe"
Women love them becuase they save space. Has nothing to do with the best technology, it what the consumer wants. But for 2004 / 2005 CRT is the wise choice.
This was my original thought. Then the convergence on my ancient RPTV started to go south and I didn't want to waste money trying to get it fixed.I almost blew $5K on 65" CRT, but instead got talked into a far more expensive HD2 DLP Front Projector w/110" screen. The visual impact is much bigger but I have room light control issues so daytime viewing is problematical.
I try to only use the FP for serious movie/HDTV watching; routine watching is barely tolerable on the old RPTV. I still hope to replace the old RPTV with an 65"+ HD RPTV in the next few years (again for routine/daytime viewing). I'm going to hold out as long as I can as the price/diagonal inch continues to drop on HDTVs.
Oh yeah, DLP works for me, the LCDs I've seen had too many motion artifacts. Last time I checked, CRTs still had the best PQ if you have the space (and muscles to move the stuff). I don't see rainbows but some of my friends have with DLPs. you'll have to judge for yourself. Plasma ? too expensive, unclear reliability issues, and not sure the colors are quite right.
I'll wait... the digital displays are only going to get better and cheaper.
OTOH, you gotta make a move at some point. Same dilemma with computer upgrades.
The Sony console is breathing its last--lucky it still comes on. The room this would be in is fairly dark, so the light thing is not an issue. Thinking of one of the wide screen projection units I am seeing that sell for $1299 or so, with the idea that it would last me a few years, and by that time something better will be on the market.
I've been looking to upgrade myself into a nice display, 50" being the target size me me as well. I currently have a Loewe Aconda 30" direct view 16x9 tv capable of 1080i. I've had this for close to 3 years now, and I've only just started watching HDTV in the last 6 months through Time Warner cable. Discovery HD is phenominal.LCD - I think this may have future potential, but now for larger screens above 30" I just don't see what you pay for. The image seems slow on the refresh rates, and the resolution is sub HDTV today. Let's keep in mind full HDTV resolution is 1920x1080, and anything less is scaled down - unless the channel itself is a lower resolution like 780 or even 480.
Plasma - very pricey, better picture than the LCDs, but then again, LCDs are very new relative to plasmas. Still, the burn in with a still image bothers me for that kind of money. Cool factor is high for rooms that require wall mount, but I can spare 20" or so in depth, so wall mount requirements don't justify the high cost of plasmas.
Front Prjoections - I've thought about this quite a bit, but in the end, I don't want to have to close my curtains to watch a movie during the day if I so choose. But as far as picture quality, I've seen the Marantz top line projector setup with the appropriate Stewart Screen and it was a terrific HDTV picture!
Rear Projection TV (DLP based) - this is what I'm waiting for. Current generation DLP RPTVs are creating quite a stir, primarily the Samsung ones. I've compared the 43" DLP RPTV with a 43" Samsung plasma directly with the same signal. I thought the picture in the DLP RPTV was better than the plasma. The plasma had more of a 'screen door' presentation where as the DLP RPTV seem to be smoother. Blacks on the DLP RPTV were excellent.
Texas Instruments are rolling out their next generation DLP chips. I'm going to wait and see how the xHD3 chipset looks. This is going to be their premire chipset supporting full 1080p resolution! I would expect this to arrive in the Samsung line of RPTVs at their top end price point. So I'm gussing at today's plasma prices, this time next year you should beable to pick up an amazing DLP RPTV with 1080p support.
In a nut shell, I'm hanging on to what I have now hoping to see a major improvement in resolution for a purhcase this time next year. Keep in mind, 2006 is the switch over date for broadcasting here in this country. It seems like so many things are in flux right now, not a good time to be buying a TV until things start to settle. If you can watch HDTV now, then you know whats in store in the future. I would hold off on a major TV purchase for a year or so if you can.
I myself went with a SONY rear projection high definition TV without an ATSC tuner as I get the hi def from cable. There are four sizes and all are a good value and include 2/3 pull down for movies. I had it calibrated by my ISF friend and he remarked that the TV was excellent. He even gave me a special 5400K warm setting for black and white films. The remote is quite intuitve and you can connect up to seven (eight if you use the front panel) external devices. IMHO at present all the other technologies have one or more problems.
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