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In Reply to: wide screen TVs posted by Nullone on December 8, 2004 at 09:32:29:

Best Buy has a lot of "decent" widescreen TV's. So many, in fact, it's a tough choice. Models from Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic, Mitsubishi, Samsung all can be stunningly good. You first have to decide on a budget, choose the type of TV (LCD, RPLCD, CRT, Plasma, DLP, etc), then do some search on avsforum.com
For a thorough explanation of "black bars" on widescreen TV's, read the link below. No matter how annoying you may find these little bars, the absolute beauty of native HD shown in 16:9 ratio is MORE than enough compensation IMO.

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Re: Best Buy - Nullone 19:21:57 12/08/04 (12)
I know they have different ratios, what annoys me is that they do not have one std. I read the link I still think they can have one ratio and go with it.
Also, does anyone have experience with the mitsu 65315?
- Mitsubishi 65 (Open in New Window)
- Re: Best Buy - LeasingGuy 08:48:42 12/09/04 (0)
  The 65315 is entry level. I like the Mits CRT but only from the 615 series and up. The 815 has the 9" guns, quad field focus and a steller anti-glair screen. I sell a lot of TVs and get a lot of people coming back in to up-grade the 315s to the 515s or higher. This is something that is likely to be in your home for 5 or more years, dont cheap out now and try to save a few hundred dollers.
  Hear me now, listen to me later....
- Me too, I hate it. - Hepcat 05:40:41 12/09/04 (10)
  The HD widescreen is complicated to pull up correctly on 4x3 sets but the alternative is leaving the wide setting on 16x9's and watching 99% of the programming in stretch mode. I can't stand that and every widescreen owner does it.
  - I hate it too, but....... - padreken 15:10:22 12/09/04 (1)
    My Hitachi 51SWX20B has 2 equally awful stretch modes-one applies a stretch to the sides of the picture to give you a nauseating funhouse mirror effect, the other applies a uniform stretch acroos the screen. The latter makes everyone look like characters in the Family Circus comic strip.
    I said burn-in be damned, set my contrast and brightness below 50% percent and watched what I wanted in the proper aspect ratio. I had a tech out to service my set last week, and he pointed out the faint (but unmistakeable) lines where the 4:3 gray bars had burned in.
    Back to fatheads, and here's hoping they get more hidef programming quick.
    - Re: I hate it too, but....... - Nullone 19:29:59 12/09/04 (0)
      I would put more split screen stuff one (PIP). Then you are filling it up and not really doing so much to the compressing and stretching......wonder if you split screen if it will then have to compress those two pictures to fit?!
  - Re: Me too, I hate it. - tmiddle 11:42:09 12/09/04 (0)
    Philips' CRT HDTVs have a very good stretch mode setting where the picture is only stretched toward the edges horizontally. The central half of the image is not stretched.
    Vertically the image is larger than the screen (which reduces amount of stretch needed on the horizontal) and can be adjusted up or down approx. 10% of the vertical height.
  - Re: Me too, I hate it. - rico 08:14:11 12/09/04 (0)
    Not me. I watch in whatever the correct native mode is. 4.3 in 4.3, non anamorphic widescreen in "Zoom", and anamorphich widescreen in "Full". I never use "Wide Zoom" except in rare instances where a non anamorphic film has subtitles which don't appear in the "Zoom" mode.
  - Re: Me too, I hate it. - Nullone 06:48:56 12/09/04 (5)
    I will not watch anything stretched. I would rather just have a 35" monitor than watch a bunch stretched crap! I don't want to see all my TV looking like circus mirrors. Why would you pay a lot for a TV and then watch everything all distorted?
    Paul
    - Re: Me too, I hate it. - Emil 08:19:32 12/09/04 (4)
      I thought that strech modes would bother me also but my Sony has whats called "wide zoom". It enlarges the picture and only streches certain portions of the screen-mostly around the edges-. It does a really good job.
      - Re: Me too, I hate it. - Nullone 09:03:10 12/09/04 (3)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Me too, I hate it. posted by Emil on December 9, 2004 at 08:19:32:
        
        If that's what you like (to look at)
        
        Re: Me too, I hate it. - tao 14:49:24 12/12/04 (1)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Me too, I hate it. posted by Nullone on December 9, 2004 at 09:03:10:
        
        I would never use the full mode for my 4.3 viewing. My Sony XBR Plasma has a Zoom 1 mode that leaves the picture as natural as 4.3. I only lose a very small portion of the top/bottom/sides, small enough to not even be of concern.
        
        actually - tao 14:54:20 12/12/04 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Me too, I hate it. posted by tao on December 12, 2004 at 14:49:24:
        
        Sorry....it's the zoom 1 mode on my Samsung HD reciever.
        
        Re: Not a good example - rico 09:57:30 12/09/04 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Me too, I hate it. posted by Nullone on December 9, 2004 at 09:03:10:
        
        You are portraying a 4:3 picture onto a "Full" 16:9 mode. The "Wide Zoom" on the SONYs only stretch the sides. Less distortion but I still don't like it.

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