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In Reply to: HT for the 2 channel guy...my experience (so far) ...Long posted by Estes on December 13, 2004 at 16:11:22:
If your processor has the Dolby Pro Logic II codec give that a try on 2 channel material. After 50 years of stereo only I experimented with plain stereo versus PL II and its rival, DTS Neo 6. These derive a 5 or 6 channel mix from two channel sources. I found that PL II in its "music" mode sounds the best and now use it 100% of the time for all two channel material (LPs. laserdiscs, tapes, FM, broadcast cable TV, and those few DVDs in Dolby Digiatl 2 channel). In PL II, instrumental timbre and soundstage are improved and there is a heightened sense of listening "around" the instruments. I detect no "phasey" effects.My collections have a whole new life. PL II was developed jointly by Dolby and Jim Fosgate, the grand old man of surround sound. It sounds infinitely better than Pro Logic's first incarnation (PL I always sounds distorted to me).
Also, try a phantom center. I switched to this after ten years of a "hard" center.
I agree with your other points. I have forund that all speakers should be equi-distant from the sweet spot, set at identical levels and,ideally, all identical.
Follow Ups:
My processer is a cheap Technics, several years old bought used, so no PLII. I am looking for a better processor, but also used.I have switched the centre out, to see if I like the result. Finding a matching center has been a pain & doing without would make life simpler ;-)
You do need a good matching center, unless you cannot afford one and you seat on the sweetspot all the time, (you watch your AV alone), INHO... ;)
Antonio Melo Ribeiro
After experimenting without a center channel, I have gone back to using one. It sounds better in my situation.Now I will have to hunt for a matching center. My front speakers are Energy 22.3, which were pricey in their day. Unfortunately, nothing that Energy makes now comes close to the sound. So I am looking for another brand that is a better match.
I cannot find your speakers anywhere on Google... Anyway, I also have discontinued front speakers without a matching center, so I had to listen to a lot of center speakers until I found a good match...I learned that the center has to be as large as possible to be able to play male voices with enough body, very detailed, and it cannot sound brighter than the fronts, otherwise you will hear two of everything, particularly voices...
I bought the Proac CC", fantastic center, will probably match almost any speakers, but a bit pricey... I didnt like its small brother, the CC1, too bright, not enough body...
I think the tweeter is the most important driver to match, look for similar material, silk, aluminum or whatever, also for same order crossover...
Antonio Melo Ribeiro
If you go to the Energy website & look in the archives, you will see the 22.3.According to UHF, who use the earlier Energy 22 Conniseurs, the only speakers that matched was the Proac & the Theil. Looking to get rid of your Proac cheap ;-) Please, please, please...;-)
I agree that it important that the tweeter be of the same material. I will check out some other centers to see if I can find one that is close to my needs. I have learned at this price point, it is best to take your time.
I told you my Proac will match most good speakers... ;)I did find V2.3, not 22.3 !!!
Antonio Melo Ribeiro
The link is below. Go to the energy site, click on classics & the picture on the side is the 22.3. Go to brochures & you will find one for the 22 series. Energy used the "22" for two lines of speaker...the first series had the 22 Pro, 22 Reference & the 22 Reference Conisseurs with the last being the most expensive.My view is they produce lots of bass for the price, but a bit weak in the midrange. I will be upgrading the internal wire & crossover in the New Year. I will post a review then.
Look for a center with the Vifa Ring radiator, there are plenty, it might match your speakers reasonably...
Antonio Melo Ribeiro
It was called a "hyperdome" tweeter. Quite decent sounding. Can you suggest some brands that use the Ring radiator tweeter? Thanks in advance...
It should also have a similar xover to blend-in properly, yours are 2 ways so lets see what I can find, but you have to test them, I never heard any of this...http://www.polkaudio.com/home/products.php?category=5&speaker=162&POLKAUDIO=4a327b8645217d398fde0d713cb0c16b
http://www.av123.com/products_product.php?section=speakers&product=26.1
Antonio Melo Ribeiro
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