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In Reply to: Budget Plasma EDTV vs higher-end DLP HDTV? posted by AbeCollins on February 22, 2005 at 15:20:09:
Took a chance and picked up a relatively inexpensive ($2100 + tax) 42" LG RU-42PX11/H plasma set that is 'altitude rated' to 9000-feet. LG is a Korean company that is coming on very strong in consumer electronics. They have an excellent reputation with cellphones and they're making good progress in other areas. The LG was the only set in the store that came with a standard 2 year in-home repair/replacement warranty that didn't cost extra. There's also an LG authorized service center just 12 miles from where I live.The store didn't have that highly rated (per CR magazine) Sony EDTV plasma. There were even 'lower end' sets available vs the LG that just didn't do it for me. In fact, those Philips sets (that cost more) were not that great even though they have a big name behind them. This LG plasma was also one of the brightest plasmas available and although it may look a bit washed out and not as saturated as some, that was quickly and easily corrected by turning the brightness down.
Some important factors for me in my decision:
0)Couldn't spend more than $2500.
1)Must be bright; Brighter than DLP or LCD RPTV's for daytime use in a bright open room.
2)Must not buzz like a chain saw at high altitude (as most plasmas are not designed for up high places like Colorado).
3)Must be reasonably good quality. The physical build quality on this unit is excellent. We'll see how the electronics and screen hold up.
4)Must look as good as other EDTV plasmas. Most of them looked better than anything I've owned in the past. The LG looked better than Philips, Zenith, Samsung. The LG looked about the same as the Panasonic which cost more.
5)And a given, it must cost less than an HD plasma. The HD plasmas were better looking in some cases but at distance, the differences were less obvious. But at almost twice the price for HD for a given size, I decided on EDTV this time around. A true 'videophile' would not have done this!
6)I wanted to buy local for various reasons including the need for a 'specialized' set that is known to perform at high altitude. This LG plasma is the /H model where the "H" specifically means High Altitude. Plus I needed the set delivered and the other HUGE CRT set moved. The two guys who delivered the plasma moved the 200-Lb+ CRT set without hesitation.
The LG plasma displays DVDs just fine through the DVI port which handles anything you throw at it... 480p 720p 1080i. When I feed it an HD signal at 720p or 1080i from my OTA HDTV tuner, the picture is clearly better than any DVD. To answer a question about the 480p resolution and how it handles HDTV, it is clear to me that even an HDTV signal on an EDTV set looks great... like I said, better than a DVD.... even an 'upconverted' DVD as my player will output 720p and 1080i via DVI port. The LG plasma also has two sets of RGB inputs plus a PC HD15 "VGA" port.
Only complaint so far... LG needs to get their act together with a better remote control. Some of the button labels are rather cryptic. I actually had to read the manual to understand some of the meanings. I can usually figure these things out w/o the manual. For example, the Jump button on the LG remote is labeled Review. Maybe I'm just used to all the Sony sets I've owned in the past but Review didn't make any sense to me. There are other weird examples I can't think of right now.
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Myself, I'm into 2 channel only, analog, but the wife wanted a new HD set. Went around for 3 weeks comparing, looking, talking. I thought the Samsung 5085 (Pedistol DLP set) was more natural looking than most LCD or plasma sets. Plasma looked too cartoonish to me (but I did love the Pioneer Elite Plasma, just would not spend 6k) and this DLP set had the darkest blacks and brightest pic over most others I looked at.
Was out of stock and should be delivered in another 2 weeks.
Steve
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That Samsung pedistol DLP is probably the best looking I've seen (in DLP) but that pedistol was a real waste of space for me. I need equipment shelves below the screen. Had I gone with DLP, one of the other Samsungs would have been my top choice.
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Agree about the space but once I compared the pic quality to the other Sammy's, same size or even their 46", I was convinced. I have a dedicated audio only studio so sound was not my concern.
It get delivered this Saturday :-)
Steve
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Have fun with that new top rated top-of-the-line Sammy! :-)
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Abe, is it top rated? I've not seen a review on this model, not that that would every persuade me, it was my eyes that told the story.
Even with audio, buying based on reviews has never proven anything but lost $$$$ IMHO. Everyone has their bias, including me :-)
OK I may have jumped the gun but to my eyes it was top-rated in the DLP range of sets that I saw.
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first the delivery guys couldn't even fiqure out how to hook thinks up with the cable box for HD, I had to show them!
Factory settings had to be slightly adjusted for best pic. Sitting about 7-81/2 feet away, very natural looking set, compared to any Plasma which is just to cartoonish for my tastes (Except Pioneer Elite series which is just too much $$$ for watching one to two shows a week).
Rented Terminal in wide format last night, pic quality is extremely good, this through a modest inexpensive Sony player.
Wife LOVES the set, and if she's hapy, it makes me happy :-)
I really enjoy concert videos on my Plasma with DTS surround through my A/V setup.Watched Crossroads Guitar Festival DVD last night with Eric Clapton, Robert Cray, Buddy Guy, B.B. King, James Taylor, Joe Walsh, Santana, John Mayer, Jonny Lang, Steve Vai, ZZ Top, etc.
If you like rock / blues / guitar, this is a must have DVD. The audio quality was superb and the video was very good. The evening shots were sometimes a tad bit grainy but daytime video was crystal clear.
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The way I understand it, LG has always been the parent company of Zenith; they just made thing simpler.Congrats on the new set, sounds like the high altitude feature was the deal winner in your case. When you do decide to upgrade later, you will have a great set to use anywhere in the house (unlike my dinosaur RPTV, which I might be able to shoehorn in the master bedroom)
I would recommend one of the excellent universal remotes to take the place of the LG's. I'm using the Theater Master MX 500, bought on close out. Here's a great site for more info:
LG is Lucky Goldstar; the same "Goldstar" you saw on electronics at at K-mart a some years back. Had big success selling computer monitors. I think they only bought the rights to the Zenith name and logo; Sylvania too. They've come a long way from $88 TVs and computer monitors.
One of the sales people told me that LG bought out Zenith and continued improving on the plasma technology. There was in fact a Zenith branded plasma in the showroom along with the LG and LG looked better. Go figure.Here's an interesting issue that cropped up but not a major problem. There are a couple of remote codes on the LG that are shared with my PS Audio preamp! One of them shuts down the preamp and the other skews the balance to the right. This shouldn't be a problem under 'normal' use. I was testing out all the features and making adjustments to the LG picture when I ran into this. Under normal operation these controls wouldn't be used.
Thanks for the info on the Theater Master MX500. I'm not yet familiar with it. I have an old original Philips Pronto that has helped to minimize remote clutter.
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