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In Reply to: I assume it works like this... posted by jbmcb on March 31, 2005 at 19:22:00:
Your tag line "music is subjective, sound is not" could not be more trite or incorrect. Of course sound is subjective. Some like electrostatic speakers for example, others can't stand them. If you are saying that there is a science to the way things REALLY are, you are just making yourself look like a stereo review tool, who has no clue about sound reproduction and clings to meanlingless specs.in other words, it makes you look like a clueless kid who is trying to look smarting than others when in fact you are promoting a very low end idea.
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> Of course sound is subjective.Sound is a physical phenomena. It's also a rather crude method of communication, IMHO. Sound is, basically, bits of air banging against each other. It isn't nearly as interesting as the crazy physics of light, or the amazingly complex chemical sensors in our nose and taste buds. Our sense of hearing is just a very evolved sense of touch.
The perception of sound, like the rest of our senses, is very subjective. Amazingly subjective, in fact.
> If you are saying that there is a science to the way things REALLY are, you are just making yourself look like a stereo review tool
Sorry, I don't understand that sentence. Scientists are tools of Stereo Review? Wow, even after death that publication has some clout! Funny, I don't remember them measuring anything, though, while Stereophile seems to measure the crap out of everything.
> when in fact you are promoting a very low end idea.
Jeeze, I wouldn't want to be considered "low end!" I'll have to buy some Kimber Kables or something to improve my image.
/*Music is subjective. Sound is not.*/
Ray Kimber and the Kimber Cable company are two of the most respected names in cable.While I do believe that cables make a difference, if you would have said "Hi-End cables" or "audiophile/videophile cables" I would not have responded. However, to slur someone who not only contributes to the audio community (AA, for one), but actually sponsors the musical arts is asinine and counter-productive to the hobby and, in some cases, audio/music profession that we all enjoy.
Other than that, I agree with your comments to that prick.
I meant no disrespect to Mr. Kimber. I'm sure his cables are very nice (I build my own cables.)Kimber, along with Mark Levinson and Krell, are very visible audiophile-wise, in that audiophiles that don't know much about gear assume, by name alone, it's fantastic stuff. "Oooh, you have Kimber cables! Those are awesome!" type reactions. I was just using Kimber as an example of one of the "Cool" audio gear companies.
/*Music is subjective. Sound is not.*/
Your arrogance should've preceeded you: then I'd have known to ignore your crap.With nose raised in the direction of the fifth star to the left:
I make my own cables, therefore I am a god. Krell and Levinson are just names. I am Stupido, Master of the Uni-cycle.
/*Music is subjective. Sound is not.*/
you are a low end fool. you think measurements mean something. you can't hear anything thru those no dynamic maggies. Kimber cables are great. if you had some, i might have some respect for you. they are undoubtedly much better than any crap you could make, but you probably would not hear it through your crappy system.you're smart, you're a scientist, you understand sound. let me fill you in on 1 thing: you don't have a clue. study some more.
you're tag line is still stupid and inappropriate. it does you disservice.
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/*Music is subjective. Sound is not.*/
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