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I am using Proac Tablette Reference 8 main and surround speakers and the Arcam AVR300 receiver. I want to add a sub and I am deciding between the Proac ER-1 and the REL Strata III. I understand that REL suggests using the speaker-level inputs, but I wish to connect the sub to the LFE output of the receiver (i.e., line-level RCA-type connection). Is anyone doing this? Does it work well?Also, has anyone used the Proac ER-1?
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in a two-channel only setup, run from my power amp into the speaker-level input. I don't have an HT setup, but the Strata (and the rest of the REL ST line) has both a low and a high level input. More importantly, it has volume level controls for both the low and high inputs, so it makes it ideal for doing double duty as a music and HT sub.
I'm using a REL Strata III in my music/HT 5.1 setup, and it's fantastic. I didn't feel like messing with the speaker-level inputs and the lfe channel, so i'm only running an rca interconnect from the pre-amp to the strata. Caveat: i was much more concerned about music performance in this set-up, I don't watch very many action movies and I'm not a bass freak, so I wasn't concerned about rattling my fillings out with 2hz tones during vin diesel movies.I owned an SVS sub before, and while it was a great sub for demo-ing the Pod Race scene from Star Wars, it was slow, boomy, and inarticulate on with music. My experience with the SVS led me to look at music first, HT second when putting together my new system.
hope that helps!
Thanks,I don't think REL markets the Strata in the US anymore (or they stopped production on them), so now I'm considering the Q201e, but it sounds like REL is the way to go here.
RELs are great as musical subs but they didn't really shine compared to the competition when it came to concussive HT LFE effects. They might have kept the line if the Brittania series showed up a bit earlier and demonstrated marketability.I'm looking into it because I'm fairly sure I could benefit from dual stereo subs with the right RELs but it also has to give me significantly better HT LFE effects. I tried a single REL Stadium III but not enough impact in my room for LFE. There is a REL Stentor III the dealer has been trying to unload for several years without success..... Maybe this sub combined with my existing sub could be a good combo for both music and HT LFE.
hmmm, well, there's always audiogon for a used strata (I bought a used one locally a couple months ago for $600). The way REL matches the amp and woofer (making sure that the amp can't drive the woofer past safe levels, etc), it makes for a pretty long-lasting sub.
I still own a REL Storm III which I believe is very similar to the Strata III but a bit larger. I'm not presently using it so it's stored in my basement covered up with a blanket.I used my Storm III in an audio-only setup using the speaker level outputs from my tube amp (CJ Premier 11a at the time). I have also used the Storm III with the LFE output from my Denon 3803 A/V processor/receiver. They both work.
I can tell you that the Storm III integrates nicely in the audio-only setup and it fills in the low bass notes but it's down firing design doesn't offer a lot of snap and impact.
For home theater use, I actually preferred laying the Storm III on it's side with the speaker firing right at me vs down onto the floor.
I find the Storm III to work very nicely in the audio-only setup but it's over kill for home theater. You can get by with a lesser sub for HT use IMHO. If you do use the Strata III for HT, try laying it on it's side with the speaker firing at you. You might prefer it that way as I did.
Thanks for the response,I use this system for both music and HT. I just went to the Sumiko website and it doesn't look like the Strata is in production anymore. Based on your comments, it sounds like perhaps the Q201e may be the best idea - it isn't down-firing and it has a defeatable low level crossover. My only worry is that my cats might want to use it as a scratching post.
If anything, some subs are overkill for music, but that's why you can (usually) dial down the bass response.My subwoofer is used strictly for the HT LFE effects. I didn't like the slight loss of transparency when I put a (non-REL) sub between the preamp and amp for music.
I've heard bigger, more expensive subs in a much smaller room and I've loved the bass impact. It made my sub "feel" very wimpish in comparison. I need to add a 2nd sub because of the room size but I also might upgrade, two (2) REL Brittania B1s are on the wish list; may even be suitable for music.
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