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In Reply to: maybe broadcast, but not satellite posted by Joe Murphy Jr on March 20, 2006 at 17:57:31:

This statement is so wrong. The move to digital TV is nearly 100% driven by broadcast issues.

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you're behind the times - Joe Murphy Jr 19:11:52 03/21/06 (6)
Broadcast doesn't drive video technology anywhere what it used to. In the past, yes, but not anymore. Other areas push video technology now. And it's not about the move to digital TV. It's about higher resolution viewing. Broadcast digital TV is about fitting 978 channels in the space of 6. It's about money. It's about advertising dollars. For the broadcast industry, digital TV is not about a better picture (though it can be a side benefit in some cases, it's not the motive).
Much of the push to higher resolution is from DVD, the computer industry's higher resolution screens/games and video technology (VC-1, MPEG-4 AP and others), the fact that technology exists to make larger screens (not front projectors) that reveal the crap we couldn't see on 19" televisions and the fact the cost to make them has been steadily decreasing over the last 5 years (more affordable to more people).
The broadcast industry has to make higher resolution material avaiable to keep their audience. But the fact that we will have 1080p available in our homes way before anyone broadcasts in this format should tell you something -- like the broadcast industry doesn't drive video technology anymore. Apparently not.
- Joe, you're wrong - racerguy 20:15:27 03/21/06 (5)
  The push for digital TV is driven by broadcast, because the analog spectrum for TV broadcasts is going away. That is why the ATSC standard was promulgated.
  There are copious amounts of information available on this, if you would but read it.
  - video technology, not digital tv - Joe Murphy Jr 23:25:43 03/21/06 (4)
    When did I say anything about digital TV? You are the one who keeps bringing that up. You are saying that digital tv is driven by the broadcast industry. I am saying that the broadcast industry no longer drives video technology like it once did. That's two different things.
    People are fond of bringing up the fact that there is no 1080p broadcast content in order to justify why it's not necessary to get a 1080p capable display. That's just totally asinine. The simple fact is that advances in display and video technology are stepping ahead of what the broadcast industry can or is willing to offer. Because of that, the broadcast industry now has less to do with advances in video technology (unlike in the past, it's not the driver anymore).
    The analog spectrum is not "going away", it's being taken back. Over a decade of kicking and screaming by the broadast industry can't be twisted into "we can't wait to go digital".
    Read? That's good advice. And if you would but follow your own advice, you would realize that you are the one who is wrong.
    - Still wrong - racerguy 10:50:33 03/22/06 (3)
      Today Microsoft told the gaming community that a 1080p gaming console is "impossible."
      So, it's certainly not going to be gaming that drives "advances in video technology." Since HD-DVD and Blu-ray are destined to be mass-market flops, what's left?
      - you believe in microsoft? - Joe Murphy Jr 20:05:49 03/22/06 (2)
        
        In Reply to: Still wrong posted by racerguy on March 22, 2006 at 10:50:33:
        
        Aren't they the ones who said HDMI was responsible for the lack of 1080p inputs? Aren't they the ones who said HDMI was not currently capable of 1080p? As they most often are, wrong on both counts.
        How much of their BS do you actually believe? Did you believe it when they said they would not offer an external HD drive? Could that lie have been more transparent?
        On another point, when I said "gaming" drives video technology, I didn't say "game consoles". You assumed that's what I meant. Did you never play games on a computer?
        The PS3 will, however, offer 1080p gaming. How many games will be available and how many people will be able to take advantage of those games doesn't matter. It will once again prove Microsoft wrong, though.
        And if you believe the next gen format is going to be a flop, your head is so far up your ass that Rand McNally couldn't map it back out of your hole. The movie studios will not let it flop. Period.
        
        Re: you believe in microsoft? - racerguy 11:02:32 03/23/06 (1)
        
        In Reply to: you believe in microsoft? posted by Joe Murphy Jr on March 22, 2006 at 20:05:49:
        
        Joe, I have never been anything but polite to you, yet you have repeatedly called me names and made disparaging remarks. It is pointless to continue this discussion because you always revert to personal attacks and invective.
        
        finally, something we agree on - Joe Murphy Jr 18:06:50 03/23/06 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: you believe in microsoft? posted by racerguy on March 23, 2006 at 11:02:32:
        
        It is pointless to continue this discussion.

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