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In Reply to: Re: wrong question... posted by Estes on November 10, 2006 at 06:04:48:
Estes,I'm not sure why you can't understand that your reasoning is circular, but I don't think it's worth beating on any more. Early in my career I designed and anlayzed many experiments. That was one of my strong suits, because I was more interested in that than human auditory perception, even though my post doctoral work centered on binaural processing. I'm afraid I was more interested in the methodology than the substance. When I got a DEC PDP-11 with 8 kBytes of memory! to control my lab, all else flew out the window. At the Acoustical Society meetings the old guys used to complain that all the kids talked about was their computers.
You're not related to the famous Bill Estes fron Stanford are you?
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Maybe I am mistaken. But I can't help but feel you are missing my point. In a drug trial for example, it does not matter what the participants guess they are on (guess, because in a DBT, they don't know what they are on), but the statistical rates of improvement. So the question asked is, do you feel better? (in a general sense). By extension, we should ask, which picture LOOKS better. But as you said, enough.We could into a discussion on the value of computers...the cognitive science guys are really into computers & seem to ignore that there is a biological substrate (ie. a brain & nervous system). So I am with the old guys ;-)
To answer your question, no not Bill from Stanford. However, I should say nearly all of my research has been clinically focussed. In fact, during the dissertation defense the first comment from my external was, "clearly you are a clinican". That has been my focus since that time, as I find the whole publication process, needlessly nasty.
My buddy, who is a fellow of the APA, still gets nasty replies to his papers from "blind reviewers". He has been at it long enough (& has enough status) to be able to say that the reviewer or editor are "inexperienced". His response to reviewers who say sections are not well written, is also worth a laugh. He says, "I can see how this reviewer may have misunderstood what I was writing about."
I will take this opportunity to thank him again for helping through the thesis process. Don, has the ability to summerize the ramblings of a "student" & put it into context, very helpful as you wade through tons of papers. His help with the stats was also greatly apperciated.
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