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In Reply to: Yes. posted by Jack G on November 16, 2006 at 13:32:46:

You just answered my question when even Sony was not doing so,
which is what my beef was about to begin with. Thank You. That
is why I like AA so much.
I have read that the HDMI/1080 std. is still being debated
over the disc protection that will only allow some movies
etc. to output via 1080p. That would be expected in the
launch. Many studios have agreed to not use this but remains
to see what happens a year or 2 from now, as in when expensive
(to me) TV's become disposable technology like PC tech.
Andrew

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Re: SXRD - Jack G 05:17:27 11/17/06 (0)
Your TV will be neither obsolete nor disposable for a *very* long time. It has and will continue to have one of the best pictures you can get, not counting some of the megabuck FPs. As John said, the flag won't be in effect until 2010, and that shouldn't effect you anyway. We are a long way off before 1080p becomes the norm, or the standard.
Jack
PS. Have you watched any HD on it yet?
whoa there - Joe Murphy Jr 19:56:08 11/16/06 (11)
The 1080p capability has been there since Day 1 of HDMI. Most manufacturers cheaped out and bought HDMI chips that were only capable of 720p/1080i max. The chip that is 1080p capable adds $3.50 to the cost. Besides blaming the cheap-ass manufacturers, I also blame Silicon Image for even allowing a cheap/stripped version to be sold in the first place.
As to the debate that you're talking about, it's called ICT (Image Constraint Token). This "flag" in the stream tells the player to output a lower resolution signal (ie; 960x540) than the formats are currently capable of showing via the analog output (1920x1080i). This is different than the restriction set by AACS (the encryption scheme for the next gen formats) which says "no way" to 1080p output via analog. HDMI allows 1080p -- provided the manufacturer is using a 1080p HDMI chip.
There is an agreement among the studios that the ICT "flag" will not be used on discs until about 2010.
- OK, now I get it! - chacodude 13:30:36 11/17/06 (10)
  Thanks, guys! With so much info out there to sift through
  (and less time to do it lately) it's amazing what cross
  pollenation of info. gets infused out there. That's why
  I like to come here to AA boards.
  On HD...I can't put into words how superb the picture is on the
  SXRD for me. Some channels like HD Net Discovery Theater are
  truly amazing. I could sit and watch fish swim on Discovery for
  hours alongside my cats! We all dig it :-)
  Glad I got the 50" Wega HD engine XBR before it got whacked from
  the line at the price mine was at. Thanks for the clarification
  on the std.s I feel much better now about the longevity.
  Andrew
  - Re: OK, now I get it! - JoeLip 22:10:54 11/19/06 (9)
    Hi,
    I too bought one of the 50 in SXRD XBR1 sets. Its optical engine turned south on me and had to be replaced (yellow streaks in the picture). After the replacement, the set developed really bad pixellation -- as big as 1 inch squares sometimes, and on all inputs. The repair guy determined it was the new optical engine, but SONY said it was back ordered indefinitely. They replaced it with a new production 55A2000. Nice set, but before the problem the XBR1's picture was to die for. Can't say that about the newer set. The XBR1 was MUCH better than the newer set. I just don't get SONY anymore. With the new lineup of sets there isn't a 50- or 55-in SXRD XBR2 - you have to go up to a 60-in. What's that all about? IMO they also have way too many lines and models. 3LCD, SXRD, XBR, WEGA, Grand WEGA, Bravia, Qualia -- it never ends.
    Cheers, Joe
    - Re: OK, now I get it! - Jack G 05:04:12 11/20/06 (8)
      Sony has decided to make the SXRD2 their high-end TVs, comperable to their now defunct Qualia sets. Therefore, the SXRD2 will be in 60" and 70" only. I was under the impression, that the A2000 series was pretty much the same as the SXRD1.
      Jack
      - Re: OK, now I get it! - JoeLip 10:02:04 11/20/06 (7)
        
        In Reply to: Re: OK, now I get it! posted by Jack G on November 20, 2006 at 05:04:12:
        
        Hi,
        Could be but they previously didn't have a 55-incher. I suppose that if everything else is constant and you push screen size up 5 inches, the resolution suffers just a might. The difference in picture quality is significant, though -- at least to my eyes.
        Cheers, Joe
        
        It shouldn't be - Jack G 12:05:18 11/20/06 (6)
        
        In Reply to: Re: OK, now I get it! posted by JoeLip on November 20, 2006 at 10:02:04:
        
        Is the convergence lined up? The picture should be pretty sharp. Yes, there is a difference in sharpness due to size, but I wouldn't think it would really be that dramatic, especially if only 5".
        Jack
        
        Re: It shouldn't be - JoeLip 15:05:07 11/20/06 (5)
        
        In Reply to: It shouldn't be posted by Jack G on November 20, 2006 at 12:05:18:
        
        Hi,
        There is no convergence on these sets as far as I know.
        Cheers, Joe
        
        ??? - Jack G 07:11:55 11/21/06 (4)
        
        In Reply to: Re: It shouldn't be posted by JoeLip on November 20, 2006 at 15:05:07:
        
        Do you mean there is no user controled convergence adjustments? There probably are in the service menu.
        Or do you mean there is no problem with convergence on your set. Some of the SXRDs have problems with convergence, others do not. Sometimes the three panels are not lined up perfectly. Its easy enough totest, but I was thinking maybe that was why it wasn't sharp-*if* thet's the case, and it bothers you, have them replace it.
        Jack
        
        Re: ??? - JoeLip 21:34:25 11/21/06 (1)
        
        In Reply to: ??? posted by Jack G on November 21, 2006 at 07:11:55:
        
        Hi,
        There is no mention anywhere in the instruction manual of any subject mentioning or addressing convergance. That's as much as I know.
        Cheers, Joe
        
        That's not the point. - Jack G 04:51:09 11/22/06 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: ??? posted by JoeLip on November 21, 2006 at 21:34:25:
        
        You cannot easily adjust the convergence. My point is, to LOOK AT THE PICTURE and see if the convergence is off. If it is, they should replace the TV for you.
        Jack
        
        Different Wega engine in the A2000 series, not XBR - chacodude 20:12:06 11/21/06 (1)
        
        In Reply to: ??? posted by Jack G on November 21, 2006 at 07:11:55:
        
        Sony dropped the price of the 50" A2000, but it no longer has the
        upper end Wega HD engine. The 50" I have is XBR series while the
        A2000 is not. You have to step up to the 60" XBR SXRD to get
        the equivalent of the 50" XBR that I have (but the new ones
        have 1080p inputs).
        If there is some other difference in the XBR besides the WEGA chip,
        it is certainly better than the non XBR A2000 SXRD for picture.
        So far my 50" XBR is a champ (knocking on wood!). The picture in
        HD is breathtaking. A real stunner.
        
        Andrew
        
        OK - Jack G 04:48:29 11/22/06 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Different Wega engine in the A2000 series, not XBR posted by chacodude on November 21, 2006 at 20:12:06:
        
        I know the SXRD2 is a different beast. I thought the A2000 was pretty much the same as the SXRD1. Perhaps because of all the trouble they had with the SXRD OB, they changed it completely.
        Jack

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