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What are some of the better budget 42in tvs out right now?? My parents are looking to buy on and I'm trying to help them out with their decision. They are not videophiles and will mainly be watching digital cable(about 20 HD channels) and dvds. So I guess SD performance is actually more important to them than HD is right now. Right now they are looking at the Olevia 541i that is on sale for $ 899 locally and maybe less on black Friday. Any opinions on this tv? Any other 42in for under $1500 that we should be looking at? What are some of the most reccomended budget 42in lcd tvs??
Thanks
Frank
Follow Ups:
... it has at least 2 inputs. Saw a $799 at fry's but the advertisement said 1 hdmi input. Most dvd players need a component input.
...And you're not making any compromises.
That same set was $2400 less than a year ago.
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Not listed in their newspaper ad, but the "secret" online page has them listed for $1k.Circuit City just cut their price down to $1200 from $1300. Wonder if they'll price-match Best Buy when customers show them the "secret" ad?
Amazon has the Panasonic for $998 with free shipping today!Rod
I see it for $1279.
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Make sure you are looking at the TH-42PD60U. A couple days ago it was
$998 with shipping a little under $100. This morning it showed same price but with free shipping. The shipping may no longer be free by now though. Not sure how long the free shipping applies.BTW, it showed it as "white glove" shipping, which means they even set it up and unpack it so it can be tested.
Rod
...A dying breed.
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Yes, the 60u is an EDTV. I thought that was what we were talking about EDTVs. Your post above brought up the Panasonic 60U, and I was merely mentioning the price I saw for it...much lower than $1400.Rod
Sorry for the confusion but I was speaking of the HDTV version. That and the EDTV variant both end with "60u" so I guess the confusion was unavoidable.EDTV is as dead as a doornail and I'm even surprised to find that they're still sold. They're OK for watching DVD's but that's about it. For $200-300 more you get the HD version of whatever you're looking at.
The price for the HD 60u is now around $1270 if you shop around. Positively an amazing price for admission into a top name brand plasma HD set.
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Thats a great deal but what are then chances they actually have any at the store when u get there?? My parents where at Microcenter this morning to try an get the Olevia 542i that was on sale for $799 and they sold out in less than an hour! So anyways I'm back to looking for a nice budget 42in lcd tv. Arent there any standard recommendations for budget LCD tvs? If you go into the speaker or amplifier forum, u get hundreds of opinions on the best budget speaker/amp, but I guess there are also alot more options then you have with TVs?
Best Buy has a voucher plan on Black Friday. Basically, it's first come, first served. If you were one of the first few in line (the store closest to me had 6 to sell), then you got first shot at them. I believe the line started at that store Thursday around 7pm - 8pm.I got in line Friday at 2:35am (the doors were open at 5am) and left around 5:15am -- with nothing. If I would have left with nothing due to my getting there too late, well that's just too bad for me. I could have accepted that as it would have been my fault for not being as diligent as those who camped out/braved the cold, but that's not why I left with nothing. I could have gotten a few things left on my list (the important items sold out before the line even moved), but the way the store was set up inside was the most fucked-up setting I have ever seen in my life. The person who made that decision, corporate or local, needs to have a full grown elephant cum in his/her mouth ("...and swallow it!"). Sorry about the visuals, but that's how I feel.
My wife had better luck. At Circuit City, she got 6 of the $2.99-after-rebate Sandisk 1GB cards, 2 cases of the free-after-rebate 50-pack DVD+R spindles and a $39-after-rebate 250GB external hard drive. She then went to Wal-Mart and got, I believe, everything she needed there (numerous items) plus a few items for her sister. She then went to Starbuck's, got two ice coffees and made it back by 8:10am. To make matters worse (or better, depending on how you look at it), she started off at Circuit City with at least 150 - 200 people in front of her!
...I could really kick myself in the ass when I think of the $3500 I spent on my 42" Sony less than two years ago.What was that they said about "early adopters?"
;(
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for two more years than those that waited.
Thanks Jim.I feel a little better with the way you put it!
;)
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Not an early adopter huh?Damn, then I have no excuse!
;)
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Wait till next month.
It'll be cheaper.
I paid $2,200.00 for my SONY 34XBR910
Now the latest model 960 I think is hundreds less.The first RICOH laser printers I serviced were $5,000.00
Now you can buy better laser for $150.00
GTF
If you can get to Office Depot early, they have a 42" ED plasma (852x480) for $800. It's not a name brand (Haier or something), but who cares?If there's a Shopko in your area, they have the 37" Westinghouse LVM-37w (1920x1080) LCD monitor for $800 as an Early Bird special.
If your parents are seniors, I would suggest Sony 36 CRT. They are plenty big, cheap & great with SD or DVD. Stick with Two channel for the setup, less complex & easier to use.If your parents are able to manage new technology, then I would suggest a Samsung flat screen, for budget, but still decent 42". Make sure it is an HD TV.
I would stick with a major brand name, because the budget sets are just that, CHEAP. Where will you get them fixed when they blow up?? ;-)
Name brand?
I have some Sony batteries to sell you.Name brand?
Most people would consider them an el-cheapo manufacturer, but LCD monitors from Westinghouse are kickin' plenty of name brand ass these days.Name brand?
The only way I'd take a Samsung product is if it were given to me for free. Then I'd sell it to someone who didn't know any better.Name brand?
All of the big boys were at one time small upstarts. The no-names of today may be the name brands of tomorrow. How do you think Sony's customer service compares to no-name Oppo Digital?
"Most people would consider them an el-cheapo manufacturer, but LCD monitors from Westinghouse are kickin' plenty of name brand ass these days."Westinghouse used to be a big manufacturer. Who bought the name? Also they are sold all around the world. Similarly, in the Far East Sharp TVs were considered a great deal, but in Canada at least, their tube TVs have poor picture quality.
"All of the big boys were at one time small upstarts. The no-names of today may be the name brands of tomorrow. How do you think Sony's customer service compares to no-name Oppo Digital?"
I agree with you. Brands rise & fall in terms of quality. Sure Oppo is an up & comer. But I would not buy a "no name" $25 DVD player from Wal-Mart (Remember the Simpsons...this a good brand "Sorny"). My cheap neighbour did, & he want back 3 times to get one that works. I figure he spent more on gas then he did on the player!
…........a CRT TV is easier to use and change channels than a flat screen TV? Sorry, I fail to see how this is so?I have both and the SAME factory remote operates both in the same way.
Smile
Sox
No...just that the seniors (75+) I have dealt with in the past, liked the fact the TV was flat, but were put off by the complexity of the remote, setup or the fact that the picture on SD material "looked" funny. They could not figure out how to make the adjustments. I did get a senior's remote from Weemote, that was helpful, but a few phone calls of "it's not working" changes your view.Of course everyone is different, but for seniors, I tend to think in terms, simple is better.
HaHA what would my parents think if they we called them seniors....:)
........As for complexity? I have a 106cm Panasonic Plasma & a Panasonic 86cm CRT and the remotes that came with each of them are identical. The set-up is identical.I have owned Panasonic, Fujitsu & Pioneer plasma screens. I can’t see how they are more difficult to operate than a CRT ?? In some cases they are identical?
I'm sorry, I just don't follow your logic?
Smile
Sox
Ever hear of Dimentia or Alzheimer's? Mom started with the former and over a few years short progressed to the latter. She couldn't handle anything more complex than the old fashioned drum style tuners. She even forgot how to work her simple one button phone mate answering machine.I nursed her last TV set until she passed because you can't buy them anymore.
And, I hope you never have to watch your parents degenerate the way my Mom did. I somehow don't think you would call them dumb, would you?
Hi Markw*: I guess I was trying to make the point you made...
I went through something similar before my mother passed.Like you I was trying to point out that some seniors do not adapt well to new technology. Keep it simple was my point.
.....…………Previous poster?I have had a great deal to do with elderly people and people with disabilities my ENTIRE life. I don’t sell them short whatsoever – that’s what the other poster was doing.
I’m sorry for the loss of your mother and good on you for nursing her.
I’m not going to get into an argument over this. However, the broad-brush statement that seniors can’t cope with or operate a Plasma/LCD TV is absolute bullshit.
Have a good week.
Smile
Sox
Yes, maybe they are dumber, or dumber when it comes to technology. The one bakes wonderful cookies, but don't know what to do if things go wrong ("its not working" means the screen is blank, because they picked a satellite channel that they do not subscribe to). But maybe your seniors are just brighter.But if you read my post, I am also saying they did not like the fact that the screen was not filled on SD material or it looks funny when it is streched to fill the screen.
All I am saying is keep it simple, especially if you are not there to do the hookup.
It is not my intention to start a flame war.
My parents arent seniors they are 52 and 54 and a crt is not an option it has to be either a lcd or plasma flat panel.
plasma or lcd aren't as nice as a crt.
53 and wouldn't touch a plasma or lcd or dlp.
CRT is picture quality no. 1.GTF
because a crt wont fit.
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..I know that has been the orthodoxy (that CRT PQ is tops) for a long time. I feel that the best plasmas throw a more holographic and chromatically rich image than even the best CRT's.And from a far more practical POV, the whole issue is essentially moot as CRT's are hardly being manufactured anymore and those that are are typically low end, "budget" affairs.
Face it, CRT's are today's betamax machines.
Say, bye bye CRT.
You were great but your time has passed.
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Over realistic colors and image.
Poor black detail compaired to crt.
LCD with it's motion artifacts. DLP also.
Stuck pixles.
When I was shopping for a new TV I saw a Sharp Aquinos
at the PC Richards store with what looked like a pimple
on the canned fishtank picture on one of the fish.
The fish moved and the pimple remained.
A beautiful yellow-green spot close to the center of the picture.
Awful. Also not covered under any warrantee.
You would be stuck with that awful dot right near the middle
of the screen.
Fast action on LCD's & DLP's annoy me to no end with all the out
of focus image's.
To bad the crt is being replaced by a second rate product.GTF
CRT has the best blacks, but any other advantages are disappearing fast. They are seriously size limted, and CRT RPs have their own problems. LCOS beats it in most catagories,and come in decent sizes. Good plasmas are getting there, getting better and better every year. When buying a plasma, make sure the store has a good pixel policy, or a good return policy. The best ones, are a bit overpriced though.
Until DLPs get rid of the color wheel, I cannot watch them due to the rainbows.
Perhaps SED, if it ever happens, will be the best of all worlds (yea right).
Jack
Sized doesn't matter. I like to sit close anyway.GTF
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Yep, the old CRT is on its way out for sure.I am wondering if SED tv sets will make it to market & if they will be as good as promised?
I do think that some of the good crt look better than lcd, for example my Samsung TSL2795hf looks amazing on 1080i hdtv and 480p dvds, at least as good as an LcD. But where it really takes the cake is how nice it looks on SD digital cable channels, it is far better than either of my brother brand new Samsung lcd screens.
Also my dad is an electrical engineer so if it blows up its most likely he will fix it himself. But Im kinda hoping that any television they would buy would not blow up! Im not so sure name brands get you any more quality, alot of the time you are just paying extra for the name.
Quality, is in terms of things like power supply, which you cannot see, but make a difference in the long term. Most off brand tvs cut corners where you cannot see them.
I also need some recommendations for a good 5.1 speaker system. I found this at audioadvisor. Any others that aren't to much money that actually sound good?? I recommended to my dad to maybe just get a decent surround receiver and just stereo speakers to start off. He could then add the sub and surrounds later on. That way it wouldn't be such a big outlay oof cash at one time and my mom would be more likely to agree to it.
Thanks
All this research on TVs has made me start to think about replacing my aging Samsung tsl2975hf. I love the picture quality, but I would definitely like something a bit bigger. I have room for around a 32-34in crt so im wondering what would be my best bet, crt or lcd? I love my Samsung crt, but it seems the good crt are just as expensive as lcd and plasma!
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