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In Reply to: Sears Sony Blu-ray demo posted by blackpixels on December 20, 2006 at 20:40:54:
The Sonys are rarely discounted, it seems to be their policy. If you do a search online, you can find them lower. BTW, you do know that they are really made by Pioneer. Amazon has the Samsung for $600, just make sure it has the latest firmware (downloadable if needed). I've toyed with the idea of getting a BD player, to go with my HD DVD player, but between the fact that there are only 10BD exclusive titles I would buy, and the price of stand alone players is rather high. PS3 isn't an option for me-its butt ugly and has no remote.
You may wish to consider an HD DVD player,half the price, and one day blu-ray players will catch up to them PQ wise.
Jack
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Jack,Where have you seen the lowest price on the Sony BDP-S1 on the internet? Best I've found was around $839. I believe I can get it for around $749 from my buddy. The PS3 is not a bad option as well, but I just can't get past the thought of not have a true Audo/Video dedicated piece as "sound" quality if very important to me while listening to CD's as well as this would most likely become my primary unit. The BDP-S1 utilizes discreet circuitry this is what I believe would set it apart from the PS3. IMO it would just be impossible to house Sony's Cell Broadband Engine AND the Blu-ray technologies together while maintaining great A/V (more Audio) while staying below the MSRP of $999 (like the BDP-S1) for the unit. I agree it would be kind of nice to have a game system/pc-internet/BD player all in one; plus the addtion of HD music (supposedly) early spring 2007, but I've become spoiled. Hey, look at my history; I bought the Sony 9000es as soon as it hit the street and I still love it today. Do you believe that the PQ in HD-DVD bests that of the Blu-ray?? hmmm. I've not heard this...my understanding is that both formats appear to be identical with the exception of course of the capacity of BD's.
Gene
I did a search a while back, and found it at DVDcity for $800. There are several things you should know. The Sony (and Pioneer) Blu-ray players do NOT play CDs. The PS3 does, but does NOT upscale DVDs.None of the Blu-ray players support advanced audio codecs at this point.
The Samsung, now discontinued, is supposed to be reasonably good with the upgraded firmware.
Yes, I beleive that HD DVD bests Blu-ray PQ wise. Most people who own both prefer HD DVD. Despite its supposedly "superior technology" and greater storage capacity (Sony needs it for ineffecient codecs), the absolute BEST it can do, is be as good as HD DVD. For that, they charge twice the price. You can get the HD A2 for less than $500 and you can even get the XA1 (1st gen) for $500 now.
HTH,
Jack
PS. here's the link-they are having server problems today, try later.
Jack,I'm not completely with you on your position of PQ and yes, I'm very tired of new technology format wars, "bureaucratic BS". I have in my posession a fantastic Marantz Laserdisc player and Sony SACD player. Good thing that my DVD/SACD player functions mainly as my DVD (and CD player for the matter) player. I thought it was crazy when I realized my 9000es didn't play CDR's and I thinks it's ludacris that the BDPS1 doesn't play CD's! I just spoke to my sales friend and told him when they're marked down the Sony's to $399 I'll buy one and it should be fairly soon (like March) since the 2nd gen stuff will be trickling in. He also told me that the first customer that bought one of the BDP1's returned it because it wouldn't play CD's. I'll most likely wait for the upgraded HD music units. Jack, which Samsung model are you refering to being disco'd already?
There's only one Samsung Blu-ray player. The Sony will not play any of the interactive discs (ie BD-J), and will not play CDs. AFAIK, it isn't upgradable at all. Also be aware, that except for the Sammy, none of the Blu-ray players will pass BTB.
Jack
The PS3 remote is out in Japan already and it will be in the US very soon, if not now. For those that can't wait, the Japanese remote works on the US PS3. The manual is in Japanese and the letters/words are in Japanese, of course.Can't help you with the players asthetics: to each his/her own.
EB Games and GameStop are now selling the new PS3 remote.
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You said "...and has no remote." -- nothing about universal remotes. Besides, there's nothing stopping one of the IR/RF remote makers from making a sensor to plug into one of the PS3's USB ports. Bluetooth problem solved.
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