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In Reply to: Reasons why i should not be compelled to buy a 1080P set? posted by dingo dave on February 17, 2007 at 21:51:37:
If you are going to sit rather far from your set, 1080p may not be as crucial. OTOH, if you wish to sit close,it will be. My biggest complaint with plasmas is the screen door effect-seeing the pixals. Its an issue with 720, not with 1080p. As a rule, 720/1080i broadcasts tend to look better upscaled/deinterlaced to a native resolution of 1080p. HD DVD and Blu-Ray certainly looks better at 1080p, as do upscaled DVDs.
But, that's just me-buy what you lke.
Jack
Follow Ups:
I saw a Mit 52628 for $1300...a floor model. Damn cheap, but no 1080P input and it utilizes "wobulation" to achieve "1080P".
I am going to ask BB guy to play a 1080P Blue-ray disc into the Panasonic TH50PX60U tomorrow. If it looks outta site, even on a 720P display, i may have a solution to my quest.
It's been my understanding that neither format (Blue Ray or HD) is 1080p. Am I wrong about that?
There are technical differences as to how each format flags the material, but both formats encode up to 1920x1080p24 (there are also options for different resolutions and frame rates). So far, films encoded for both of them are 1080p on disc.Blu-ray allows for direct output of 1080p24 (no conversion/on disc = output, as long as the hardware and firmware allow for it), but HD DVD flags the 1080p24 material to be output as 1080i60. For HD DVD to output 1080p24, either the decoder must ignore the flags (not happening at the moment) or the 1080i60 output from the decoder must be deinterlaced and reverse telecined (36 repeated frames are excluded from output).
I do like plasmas. As mentioned elsewhere, they have a glossy screen, so reflections in a well lit room are a major consideration. I never understood why they don't use glare free glass.
Jack
I think you are headed in the right direction now. CR doent love those Pannys for no good reason, and they have studied tons of sets in great detail.
I a mgoing to go to BBuy and ask them to hook up a Blue-Ray player to the Panasonic 60U. I am going to ask the kind saleperson to play a BR disc on the 60U. If i am stunned by the picture...no matter if it is taking full advantage of the 1080P signal(which it isn't)...i am going to get it.
Oh, and i found it for $1699 at another b & m store nearby so will ask BB to price match.
And who's CR?
Sorry. I forgot i had passed my intentions along last night. Tells you a little bit about what was going on last night.
I thought that regardless of whether the signal was interlaced or progressive, that plasmas and LCDs displayed a progressive image and that all of them included their own de-interlacing circuits to deal with interlaced signals.If that's the case, then the difference between feeding a plasma a 1080i or a 1080p signal is where the de-interlacing occurs. Are you sure the issue you're seeing isn't a result of poorer quality de-interlacing circuits in some screens than in the players attached to them?
PS: I have no real experience with plasmas but I know my LCD screen de-interlaces any interlaced signal I feed it before displaying it.
David Aiken
How close do you have to get to see the screen door effect? I can only see it if I'm 2' away or less.
On a 50", I can see it at about 8 feet.
Jack
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