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• Some confusion here. - Larry i 09:13:51 02/21/07 (1)
  In Reply to: Is there a definitive plasma break-in guide out there? posted by dingo dave on February 20, 2007 at 15:00:17:

  The burn-in related to plasma sets, is not a procedure to get the set into a stable, optimum working condition (i.e., it is not like audio burn-in) but a potential problem with plasmas caused by uneven firing of the pixels. The phosphors in the pixels covering the set become duller with age and use. If you run the set with very high output (high brightness and contrast settings) you burn the pixels faster. The burn-in problem people talk about comes from either letter boxing (black area around the picture) or logos (station idenfication) or any other fixed images causing uneven wearing out of the pixels.

  To maximize life, and reduce problems with burn-in, don't view the set anywhere near its full brightness capability (try to control ambient light in the room to do this) and avoid fixed images for really extended periods (e.g., don't let the kids leave a video game on when not being played).

  There is one actual burn-in issue that is similar to audio burn-in. If you are calibrating the picture, that has to be done after about 200 hours or so of use, not straight out of the box. The picture will change dramatically at first, and then settle down to a rate of very gradual change (dimming) over many thousands of hours.

  Don't worry too much. Modern plasmas are pretty robust and look good for an extremely long time.
  
  

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  • break-in, not burn-in - dingo dave 09:31:06 02/21/07 (0)
    In Reply to: Some confusion here. posted by Larry i on February 21, 2007 at 09:13:51:

    but appreciate the info
    
    

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• Re: Is there a definitive plasma break-in guide out there? - DeeCee 05:23:40 02/21/07 (0)
  In Reply to: Is there a definitive plasma break-in guide out there? posted by dingo dave on February 20, 2007 at 15:00:17:

  Hi,

  I just got one of these guys myself a few weeks ago... didn't bother with any specific "burn in" procedure - simply watched using properly "tuned" (won't say calibrated) settings.

  Minimal, but some "black bar" viewing. I don't do vid games.

  It tended to ghost afterimages on dark screens initially, but that has faded completely now.

  This has been after about 100 hrs so far.

  I don't think there is anything to worry about on this as long as you don't go nuts.

  Happy Viewing!
  DeeCee
  
  

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• Here Ya Go - Jack G 05:15:49 02/21/07 (0)
  In Reply to: Is there a definitive plasma break-in guide out there? posted by dingo dave on February 20, 2007 at 15:00:17:

  Congrats on the new TV.
  Here is a thread with a link to a break in DVD. I haven't read the thread (don't need to), but feel free to for your amusement.
  Jack

  Here's a link:
  
  

  • Burn-in thread   (Open in New Window)

  
  

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• Don’t be such a pencil nose and just enjoy the picture. :o) …….~t - three_sox 02:07:59 02/21/07 (1)
  In Reply to: Is there a definitive plasma break-in guide out there? posted by dingo dave on February 20, 2007 at 15:00:17:

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  • LOL! So true... - AbeCollins 08:26:02 02/22/07 (0)
    In Reply to: Don’t be such a pencil nose and just enjoy the picture. :o) …….~t posted by three_sox on February 21, 2007 at 02:07:59:

    I agree, just turn the set ON, apply some common sense, and enjoy. Watching TV isn't rocket science! ;-)
    
    

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• Plasma burn-in, what plasma burn-in? - patriot 22:55:08 02/20/07 (3)
  In Reply to: Is there a definitive plasma break-in guide out there? posted by dingo dave on February 20, 2007 at 15:00:17:

  My experience with plasmas have been one without worries relating to burn-ins. During the last five years, I have owned the Panasonic TH-50PHD5UY, 7UY, 8UK, as well as the TH-42PWD8. I, like many people, used these sets to watch wide screen movies with black bars and play video games. I did not do anything special like turn down the picture brightness or watched full screen only for the first 100 hours. To me, plasmas are not the delicate devices salespeople and magazines like to have you think. My conspiracy theory (haha) is that for the longest time, plasmas were indeed very expensive, much more so than LCD, so salespeople were not able to sell them as easily, therefore not making much commission selling them. They then figured if it was easier to sell ten lower priced LCD's than two plasmas, then tell the customers plasmas burn in very easily, leaving them a disaster on your hands. Never mind that the picture quality of a Panny plasma blew and still blows away that of any LCD's ... shhhh ... don't mention that. Funny how burn in has become such an issue with plasmas and not with good old fashioned CRT's, both being phosphors based. I never experienced burn in with CRT's either and back in 1989, I owned a Proton and watched wide screen laserdiscs on it, black bars and all, no burn in. That 27" was a heck of a set, one of the best in black level reproduction, absolutely slaughtered the Sony's then. Some of you might remember.

  Anyway, plasma's king. Any set that's deeper (all RPTV's) or sacrifices black level (LCD's) are compromises of size, weight, and picture quality. If you don't have a dedicated TV viewing room with light control and must use your family room or living room to watch in, then simply buy some "home theater curtains"; they are available at Fred Meyers for $28. Maybe this goes without saying, but don't put your screen opposite a bank of windows if you don't want to be watching the beautiful outdoors reflected on your screen - there, I said it anyway.

  Go plasma!
  
  

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  • Fred Meyers? Are you from PDX? (nt) - DeeCee 05:25:40 02/21/07 (2)
    In Reply to: Plasma burn-in, what plasma burn-in? posted by patriot on February 20, 2007 at 22:55:08:

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    • Betcha he eats at Burgerville, too. (nt) - Stevie Ramone 11:59:47 03/08/07 (1)
      In Reply to: Fred Meyers? Are you from PDX? (nt) posted by DeeCee on February 21, 2007 at 05:25:40:

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      • Re: Betcha he eats at Burgerville, too. (nt) - DeeCee 09:29:50 03/19/07 (0)
        In Reply to: Betcha he eats at Burgerville, too. (nt) posted by Stevie Ramone on March 8, 2007 at 11:59:47:

        The REAL choices are Stanich's or one of the McMenamins...

        Gee I miss Crystal Ale (not to mention Transformer).

        - DeeCee
        
        

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• Re: Is there a definitive plasma break-in guide out there? - David Aiken 20:26:44 02/20/07 (0)
  In Reply to: Is there a definitive plasma break-in guide out there? posted by dingo dave on February 20, 2007 at 15:00:17:

  Somewhere on the net, and I can't remember where or I'd provide the link, I came across a downloadable set of files that you burnt to DVD for use as a plasma break-in disc. Even though my screen is LCD, I downloaded it in order to have a look just for interest's sake. It plays a succession of full screen, one colour screens with the colour changing to a different colour every 15-30 seconds or so. It slowly cycles through a wide range of colours that take a bit over an hour or so to complete. The idea is that you set the disc to repeat and run the disc for a day or so.

  Try a google search on plasma break-in and see if you can locate it.

  David Aiken
  
  

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