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In Reply to: Nonsense posted by Jack G on April 14, 2007 at 06:56:59:
The available video codecs might be the same (with some being more space efficient (better ?) than others, but Blu-Ray is more likely to be able to shoehorn in the uncompressed 24/48 or 24/96 PCM tracks than their HD-DVD counterparts. Heck, maybe there won't be a need for studios to pay for lossless compression licenses for DTS HD MA or TrueHD if they simply use 50G Blu-Ray discs for movies uncompressed PCM tracks.True, Blu-ray has some growing pains, perhaps more so than HD-DVD, but there's also a much bigger upside. I expect to want to replace my first generation player (or relegate to 2nd room) with a more capable player within a couple of years. Until then, I can enjoy Hi def movies NOW.
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It really isn't being used. BR discs aren't famous for having much in the way of extras, or any for that matter, and the audio doesn't take up that much space really.> > > I expect to want to replace my first generation player (or relegate to 2nd room) with a more capable player within a couple of years. < < <
Or next fall/winter, when/if the BD-video 1.1 and 2.0 specs get finalized, and current players may or may not work with new movies. Untill then, BD won't get many of Waner's movies like Batman Begins, V for vendetta, The Matrix trilogy etc., that require interactive features.
Enjoy,
Jack
And I don't give two hoots about the extras/internet capabilities/etc provided with the movies. I just want to watch the movies and with the best audio and video quality possible. At the present, Blu-Ray provides the best audio/video experience (though that may just be an accident of selected source material). That could change down the road. In the meantime I'll continue to support whichever format supports the movies I want to watch with the best PQ/AQ.
Its unknown if BR movies with new encoding for BD-J (1.1 and up)will be playable on old machines. maybe, maybe not-perhaps a firmware upgrade will do the trick. But, since BDA has not been able to impliment it yet, we just don't know.
> > > At the present, Blu-Ray provides the best audio/video experience < < <
No, it doesn't, at best its equal to HD DVD.
Jack
Just think about all the (space consuming) neat-o features Blu-Ray will be able to support better than HD-DVD when the new BD-J features become mandatory for Blu-Ray players....Also, what I was stating was the Blu-Ray movies I have watched have given ME a better audio/video experience than the HD-DVD movies I have experienced. I would not jump to the conclusion that there aren't better HD-DVD movies out there to experience. Nevertheless, there is no refuting the fact that Blu-Ray provides higher storage capacity to support higher video bitrates, higher audio bit rates, and BTW, more capacity for all those neat extras, trailers, alternate directors cuts/endings, PIP, commentaries, etc....
Why so defensive about HD-DVD. Afraid it's about to die ? :0)
Parsons is the guy who already claimed HD DVD was dead.:-) We'll see how acurate he is here...
> > > Just think about all the (space consuming) neat-o features Blu-Ray will be able to support better than HD-DVD when the new BD-J features become mandatory for Blu-Ray players.... < < <
Not on current players, kind of makes that extra space a waste doesn't it?I don't refute the high storage or bitrate, just the need. Not too many non-MPEG2 movies need or use it.
Oh, and good luck with the interactive PiP, both Universal and Warner are rather insistant on it. Without it, Warner will leave the BDA. Its a pity that the BDA didn't get their specs finalized *before* they hit the market.> > > Why so defensive about HD-DVD. Afraid it's about to die ? :0) < < <
BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Not defensive, I just didn't drink the blue Kool-aid. I've said before that both fomats will be around for while, and I'll probably get a BD player when they put out enough movies to justify it. That may be a while though.
Enjoy,
Jack
...that builds stuff no better and often worse than the competition. After my Sony 23" computer monitor died the 3rd time, just out of warranty, I put Sony on my shit list.Oh ya...Circuit City, too, is on that list, after they and the group of Hollywood lawyers spent hundred$ of million$ attempting to foist the pay-per-view DVD format DIVX on us.
With apologies to Joyce Kilmer, "I know that I shall never see a Circuit City worthy of me."
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I don't know about Sony computers, but Sony TVs have been wonderful in my household. And most stuff running Microshaft crap, seems to have lower reliabiity and up-time than Macs running MacOS X so you might consider alternate computer platforms.Sony's no different than any other large company wanting to dominate everyone else. If they have a good technology to sell (E.g. Blu-Ray), than maybe the consumer benefits.
Those of us with an association with Stanford got the original Macs at deep discount, and I've been a Mac user ever since, now on the new 20" Intel iMac that looks a bit like a flat panel TV. I ask you MS bashers what you use for a spreadsheet if it's not the venerable Excel or for word processing if not Word. These programs have been around for years and have served us well. Don't confuse those with the various MS OS that have tried to emulate the Macintosh graphical user interface (GUI) over the years. I used a GUI and mouse contraption at SRI before the group went to ZEROX PARC where Steve Jobs saw an implementtion of a GUI. That stuff ran on a maxed out DEC PDP-11 at SRI. I used it to edit my papers; it seemed miraculous compared to editing in TICO, or cutting, pasting, and retyping.Sure Steve Jobs may be an innovative artist compared to business entrepreneur Bill Gates, but so what? MS has done some fine software, just as Sony makes some fine video equiment.
db
I'm one of the last holdouts in an increasingly Windoze dominated world. I've been forced to use Windows apps more and more, and have had to learn to put up with the occasional application (or OS) crash when using Windows, specifically LookOut (or it Outlook?); Something I almost never experienced with Unix apps. Fortunately, I'm still able to justify use of a Desktop publishing package other than Word and Powerpointless because I can create content more efficiently with it.And yes, I have used Excel; it's one of the few MS tools I find halfway useful.
Oh yeah, I use a Mac at home; I have never paid attention to virii or virus protection programs. I'm sure I should be paying attention but I've yet to get burned.
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