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In Reply to: Dolby Digital Decoders posted by eggfree on May 16, 2000 at 22:16:46:

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Re: every DVD player made has this feature standard.(nt) eggfree 20:46:05 05/17/00 (7)
In fact what I have amounts to a transport, and it does not downmix a 5.1 channel audio to 2 channel. The result of not having a center channel is faint dialogue at best.
- What kind of DVD player do you have? (nt) Mike 06:16:02 05/18/00 (6)
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  - Re: What kind of DVD player do you have? (nt) eggfree 18:28:10 05/18/00 (5)
    a Sony 7700, which will output a two channel analog signal, but the two channels it outputs are the 5.1 left and right: it doesn't downmix the center channel into the analog left and right outputs.
    That said, the left and right analog outs sound wonderful on CD music and pre-surround movies, but lousy on recent movies where much of the dialog is encoded in the center channel.
    The sony does have optical/digital outs and other fancy stuff, but I need an outboard processor/reciever to make use of them. I was thinking of buying a processor like MSB's digital decoder that handles the downmixing. My amp is a Jolida, so it has no digital processing, and I have no desire to replace it.
    - Re: What kind of DVD player do you have? (nt) Mike 20:38:29 05/18/00 (4)
      ***a Sony 7700, which will output a two channel analog signal, but the two channels it outputs are the 5.1 left and right: it doesn't downmix the center channel into the analog left and right outputs.***
      It should. If it doesn't revisit the manual, or get it serviced.
      - Re: What kind of DVD player do you have? (nt) eggfree 09:32:15 05/19/00 (3)
        
        In Reply to: Re: What kind of DVD player do you have? (nt) posted by Mike on May 18, 2000 at 20:38:29:
        
        So I may be an idiot, but I don't think so... Went through the manuals. THe 7700 as a reference player does not have an onboard decoder. It is the only SONY model without an onboard 5.1 decoder. It will read 5.1 and DTS, it will output them via a coax or optical, but it will only do the D/A conversion for two channel (CD playback)
        
        Re: What kind of DVD player do you have? (nt) Mike 10:59:19 05/19/00 (2)
        
        In Reply to: Re: What kind of DVD player do you have? (nt) posted by eggfree on May 19, 2000 at 09:32:15:
        
        ***So I may be an idiot, but I don't think so...***
        I din't mean to imply you were an idiot. If I did, I apologize.
        ***Went through the manuals. THe 7700 as a reference player does not have an onboard decoder.***
        The 7700 being a "reference" player has nothing to do with it. It not having an onboard decoder has nothing to do with it either. (acctually ALL DVD players have an onboard decoder. Its just that some players do not feature 5.1 analog outs, only 2 chanel stereo. This is a common mistake though and nitpicking)
        ***It is the only SONY model without an onboard 5.1 decoder.***
        This is also not true (actually you mean to say that it doesn't have 5.1 analog outputs). The 7000, 3000, 300, and 330 all do not have 5.1 analog outputs (there may be others, but I am not up on the current Sony line)
        ***It will read 5.1 and DTS, it will output them via a coax or optical,***
        Yep just like all DVD players for DD and most for DTS.
        ***but it will only do the D/A conversion for two channel (CD playback)***
        Again this is not true. It should very well downmix a 5.1 soundtrack to 2 chanel stereo on the analog outputs. It is part of the DVD spec which enables people with stereo only and older prologic only systems to use DVD without upgrading the entire system. Try what one of the other respondendts suggested and check the menu setting. If your 7700 can't/won't downmix,and you are certain you are not missing anything and are operating it correctly then it is defective.
        
        You are mistaken. CheapSteve 23:45:33 05/30/00 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: What kind of DVD player do you have? (nt) posted by Mike on May 19, 2000 at 10:59:19:
        
        **** The 7700 being a "reference" player has nothing to do with it.
        **** It not having an onboard decoder has nothing to do with it
        **** either. (acctually ALL DVD players have an onboard decoder. Its
        **** just that some players do not feature 5.1 analog outs, only 2
        **** chanel stereo. This is a common mistake though and nitpicking)
        Sorry, you are mistaken, not EVERY player has a DD decoder built in. In fact MANY of the lower end DVD players Did NOT have one. The Toshiba SD2109 to be exact, several Sony, Pioneer and panasonic models do not!
        
        my Apologies eggfree 17:41:25 05/21/00 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: What kind of DVD player do you have? (nt) posted by Mike on May 19, 2000 at 10:59:19:
        
        perhaps I am confusing the lower sound levels of DVD with the lack of proper center channel information. Perhaps what I am looking for is just a processor that performs a greater degree of compression of dynamic range than what the DVD player offers on its own.

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