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• One observation Dalancroft 10:37:24 06/14/00 (4)
  In Reply to: Center Speaker posted by Doug on June 11, 2000 at 12:44:18:

  I have a Pinnacle AC Center (2 4" poly midbass drivers, 1" softdome tweeter) and just added Paradigm Atoms (5" midwoofer, 3/4" ceramic metal composite tweeter) as the mains.

  When I switch between Dolby Pro-Logic modes (phantom and center) I can hear a major difference. The Atoms are crisper, the AC Center is more laid-back and chesty. However, since 80% of the sound in a movie typically goes to the center speaker, I didn't worry about the mismatch too much.

  Then something amazing happened: I was watching "October Sky" and there is a brief (5-6 second) scene in which a train goes by from right to left, with the sound panning across all three front channels. Surprisingly enough, the sound panned absolutely perfectly, with no change in sonic character whatsoever. I was so shocked that I had to rewind the scene three times (over the objections of my wife) to make sure I wasn't hearing things.

  So even though Joel is kind of a pr*ck, he has a point: if you have a solid center channel speaker it shouldn't make THAT much of a difference. Not sure the Cambridge fits this description, though . . .
  
  

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  • Thanks Joel 09:29:37 06/15/00 (2)
    In Reply to: One observation posted by Dalancroft on June 14, 2000 at 10:37:24:

    Thanks for seeing my point of view (I'm not really a pr*ck)
    
    

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    • Joel & Dalancroft MikeP 16:55:08 06/15/00 (1)
      In Reply to: Thanks posted by Joel on June 15, 2000 at 09:29:37:

      Joel
      Thanks for responding in an adult manner. I deleted your other posts due to their abusive nature, not because you had a different view point. I would have emailed you, but you didn't leave an email address.

      Dalancroft: Future posts calling people nasty names will be deleted on sight. Please don't.

      MikeP HT moderator
      
      

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      • Calls it as I sees it--will refrain in future (nt) Dalancroft 11:27:57 06/16/00 (0)
        In Reply to: Joel & Dalancroft posted by MikeP on June 15, 2000 at 16:55:08:

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  • Timbre Matching Tom 11:37:57 06/14/00 (0)
    In Reply to: One observation posted by Dalancroft on June 14, 2000 at 10:37:24:

    My left/right speakers are NHT-VT2 and I just replaced my NHT-VS2 center with a more full range Gershman CC-X1 one and I have to agree with Dalancroft that in movies soundtrack, more than 90% of the time the sound goes to the center and ocassionally where the sound starts panning across all three front speakers. In my case I have yet to pick up any timbre sonic mismatch between the two different brands (A great movie you can use to test this out is True Lies when Arnold on his horse chasing the bad guy on his motorcycle). In my humbled opinion, movies soundtracks are somewhat more forgiving than music soundtracks. BTW, I listen to music at my other two channel system.
    
    

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• Re: Center Speaker DMc 18:50:42 06/12/00 (1)
  In Reply to: Center Speaker posted by Doug on June 11, 2000 at 12:44:18:

  Ok, who let the childern in? And can somebody tell the yeller to shut up.
  When a studio records a mix in 5.1 they use 5 identical speakers. If you are asking will your setup work the short answer is yes. If you want optimal results the answer is no. As John has stated already even using a company's own center is not perfection. If you plan on listening to DTS music mixes the identical speaker set up is very important. Just hanging out watching movies is another thing. Use two cans and a string. :-)
  DMc
  
  

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  • Smart Ass Joel 19:01:06 06/12/00 (0)

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• Center Speaker MUST match the stereo pair John C.-Aussie 17:11:36 06/11/00 (5)
  In Reply to: Center Speaker posted by Doug on June 11, 2000 at 12:44:18:

  Hi Doug

  Warning: do not attempt to mix brands for your center speaker or you will obtain rather wierd results. It is better to have no center speaker at all than to have a mismatch. Trust me, I've tried. Other inmates might be able to give more constructive advice.

  Peace at AA

  John

  
  
  

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  • Re: Center Speaker MUST match the stereo pair Jetsons 16:50:08 06/12/00 (1)
    In Reply to: Center Speaker MUST match the stereo pair posted by John C.-Aussie on June 11, 2000 at 17:11:36:

    Hi John:

    Totally agree. I'm not sure where the below posts are coming from but a seamless soundstage across the three fronts is required for HT and specially, for muli-channel music. As a matter of fact, three identical speakers would be optimal. I have also found that some of the so called timbre matched MTM center designs have problems tonally matching the mains from the identical manufacturers.

    I have used a center of a different manufacturer from those of my mains in the past and the results were not the best (understatement). I found it preferable to use phantom mode as you suggested.

    Regards,

    Jet
    
    
    

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    • Whatever... Joel 18:59:26 06/12/00 (0)
      In Reply to: Re: Center Speaker MUST match the stereo pair posted by Jetsons on June 12, 2000 at 16:50:08:

      ya ok whatever, like you can actually tell the difference if you have a quality center, if you have a quality center channel, then there should be problem...
      
      

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  • PLEASE HELP YOURSELF, LET DOUG DECIDE Joel 16:21:18 06/12/00 (0)

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  • This is really BS....(nt) JCW 19:54:14 06/11/00 (0)
    In Reply to: Center Speaker MUST match the stereo pair posted by John C.-Aussie on June 11, 2000 at 17:11:36:

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  • Please this is bullshit.... Joel 19:03:25 06/11/00 (0)

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