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One system is dedicated for music while the other system is dedicated for video.Componets in the mix:
Music System:
Audio Research LS3 Preamp
Marantz CD6000OSE - act as transport
Theta ProPrime DAC
B&W DM7 MKII (19 years old and still sounds great!)
Infinity subwooferVideo System:
Sony A/V Rec
Sony DVD
Sony 61" XBR TVMy problem:
How do I share my B&Ws and subwoofer for both systems? What are some of the fixes for this? The rear channel speakers and center channel speakers are of no concern because they are dedicated to the Sony A/V Rec only.fergy
Listen to someone with similar room limitation (1 room, 2 systems). I went the route of keep the 2 systems completely separate EXCEPT for speakers. I would recommend that you simply pick up a reasonably priced amp for the music system and then run separate cables to the speakers and sub. The hassle is that you need to plug in the speakers to one or the other system when you wish to switch from HT to music. It is a bit of grief, but I do it in about 3 minutes and then everyone is happy and you can live with one room and one set of speakers. (You only need change the fronts and the sub). To keep things easier, if you use banana plugs on the HT set-up, you save even more hassle and you don't really sacrifice enough sound quality to worry about (but keep the spade connectors for the music...). The only extra expense is for the separate speaker cables but this also lets you minimize length for the music set-up and hide the HT gear (in my case, the music equipment is beneath my screen while the HT gear is hidden in a closet in the back of the room. The longer cables for the HT gear isn't a big deal and I minimize the length of the cable for the music system.As I said, the only hassle is swapping speaker cables when I switch systems at the speaker end of things. Not really all that terrible and my wife continues to speak to me.
Just buy a pair of Def. Tech speakers (they aren't too expensive) and totally separate the two systems. Won't cost you much and you'll get tons of low bass with the DTs so you might not even need the sub in there (for a while anyway). They are superb HT speakers.Plus think of how much nicer everything will sound once you get rid of the headache of trying to merge two disparate goals.
> ...and totally separate the two systems. Won't cost you much <Unless you have to build a second room for the second system, then it will cost a lot! I would love to have the audio system in a separate room, but it is just not going to happen, at least not in our current home. I wonder if this is fergy's situation. I imagine this is the limitation for a lot of people.
I am sure there are those who will say if it is important enough, room will be made. Easier said than done. Sometimes, all you can do is combine the music and HT systems and hope that you can optimize the one that is most important.
Michael
Sorry to seem so blase about spending tons of money -- I didn't mean to come across that way. I had gathered from Fergy's post that it wouldn't be *too* much cash out for him to split the systems.For me it would involve buying a real (audio) CDP, HT speakers for the front and your basic 5-channel amp. Nothing I'm able to do in the next year but certainly not out of the question for the next three (maybe).
It would solve a *lot* of problems for me, though...
> Sorry to seem so blase about spending tons of money -- I didn't mean to come across that way. <Actually, I didn't take it that way. I totally understand what you are saying, that separate HT and 2-channel systems works best. I could afford to separate our systems for not much cost, but my limitation is I don't have the separate rooms. Maybe the next house... :)
Michael
Can you use the pre outs on the Sony to feed to the Audio Research? That way you could drive the front channels with your music system and the rest with the Sony. Just a thought.
Estes-The Sony does not have a Pre-out, unless I'm overlooking something. My point is I don't want to go out and buy five more speakers to make this work! I tried some of the suggestion here and they did not work or I could not make them work. The Sony has an output for another amplifier that should be used to hook up another connection in another room. I should have put more thought into this before I bought the Sony rec but at the time the price was right and I chose to go that route. Any other suggestions?
fergy
That solves part of the problem (getting the front channels driven
by the ARC), but not all of it (using the subwoofer for music).You're part way there with Estes' solution.
I'm making one assumption here... that the Subwoofer has both
speaker level and line-level inputs.If cost is a factor (and it probably is), you could connect the
Main amp speaker outputs into the Infinity subs speaker level inputs.
This uses the internal crossover of the sub to split the signal into
low-pass (for the sub) and high-pass (for the main speakers). You
then take the speaker level output into the B&W mains. You'll have
to tune the Crossover frequency by ear. Depending on your speaker
cable selection this could be under US$50 to US$1000s.If cost isn't a factor, your other option is an external active
crossover. You'd take the line level outputs from the ARC preamp
into the crossover. The crossover breaks the line level signal
into low-pass and high-pass. You would then sum the l/r low pass
and feed it to your subwoofer. Then, you'd take the high-pass
and send that to the main amplifier. Since I've never tried to
cost out an external crossover, I'm not sure how much this will
set you back. Maybe US$500 - US$2000 depending on your selection
is my guess. Others that have greater familiarity with external
active crossovers would be better able to tell you the costs
associated. Add to the that the extra interconnects that you'll
need to implement. Again, that's from under US$50 - US$1000s
depending on what you want to use.Sonically, the external active crossover would be best, but
you have to consider the cost factors.Hope this helps.
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