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Bare bone 2 channel audio, has anyone compared these units for basic cd listening? i have the a1, it's wonderful for ht, i think it borders on horrid for cd listening, i bought the a1 for ht only with though of adding a dedicated pre down the line, i don't have much space in the rack, if the denon were superior to the a1 for 2 channel music i would make the exchange, i have no denon dealers near me, i would also be using the denon more a pre only as i have a macintosh amp for the mains, my mac amp and the dsp-a1 just don't sound good for 2 channel music, i heard somewhere that the yammies are best suited for their internal amps, any truth to that?
second part of my questions is this, let's assume this whole 96/24 bit dvd mlp audio stuff becomes a huge hit, what kind of a modification to my ap1 would i have to make, would an external decoder be far worse sounding then a unit that had the capabilities to decode this stuff built into it internally, im sorry if im not making much sense, im not to informed when it comes to this stuff! thank you for taking the time to read, i would really appreciate any imput anyone could offer, especially pertaining to the first part of my post.
regards
mike raslo
Well a few things come to mind. You should be running all digital inputs as the Yam converts analogue to digital anyway which will degrade the sound.As far as Denon, I doubt it will be much different. If music is the goal, then separating/integrating the systems by adding a 2 channel pre-amp would be the best move. Run the Yam thru the tape loop for HT.
Personally I couldn't careless and don't worry about new formats. There's always a new one on the horizon. When the software is in the stores and I mean all the software, then maybe I'd think about it. I doubt that will happen for a least a few years and likely more.
When/if DVD-audio/SACD/MLP/??? happens, dump the Yam and buy something new would be my advice.
I called Enon and Onkyo for kicks to see how they route the analog signal. Onkyo says that in stereo operation the analog passes through dithout another AD/DA. In prologic it would be re digitized; that would make sense.
Denon, on the other hand, claims all signals are processed in the digital domain, even in stereo. However, unless one talks with their engineers for sure, I am not a 100% convinced that the stereo signal would be digitized but certainly could be. I have yet to notice a difference either way. But, I would need convincing evidence from a properly controlled and conducted test.
Even Arny says that an extra AD/DA is not a good thing. I'm surprised you can't hear the difference.
The statement that "You should be running all digital inputs as the Yam converts analog to digital anyway" implies that all analog input is converted to digital. Please correct me if I am wrong here Rod, but I believe that this interpretation is incorrect. Looking at the block diagram for the DSP-A1, all the digital signals go through the DSP but the analog inputs also go to summing junctions that are called DSP/BYPASS. The anlog inputs to the DSP/BYPASS junctions are summed with the external decoder inputs and the DAC outputs of the DSP. In short, the unmodified analog signals pass to the right and left main speakers if effects off is selected (which turns off the DSP). If the DSP is active, its contribution would be summed with the analog inputs at the DSP/BYPASS summing junctions. The center and effects speakers are also available when the DSP is active or the external decoder inputs are used.I realize that this contradicts the popular myth that the DSP-A1 digitizes everything. Sorry about that, hope this info is helpful.
then they did do something right. It is true that *most* (an unfortunate generalization) HT processors/receivers do convert to digital.Certainly the analogue bypass would put it ahead of the Denon without that feature. Whether or not a 2 channel pre-amp might sound better is yet another question.
Thanks for the input.
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