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Tonight I watched the new "Gladiator" DVD. In the beggining it gives you an option of which sound format to use. I selected what I thought was DTS, but after closer examination I learned that it is DTS-ES. No sound would play on DTS-ES format even though my DVD player and new Onkyo receiver are both DTS compatible. I ended up watching the movie on the Dolbly Digital format and it sounded good. I was hoping some one could give me a quick education on the subject of DTS, DD, and DTS-ES. I read some of the past postings but they did clear up the subject for me.
I would really appreciate some help.
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Sorry to beat a dead horse on this one. I own gladiator and and a 5.1 dd/dts denon receiver. It played just fine in DTS.
I also had problems playing the DTS soundtrack on my non-ES gear, but it was only because I don't have any other DTS DVDs or CDs and had never enabled DTS on my Pioneer DV-414 player. After that was done, DTS playback was automatic. Trust me, you don't need an ES-equipped system to enjoy the DTS soundtrack on "Gladiator".Hope this helps!
----Royce----
DD and DTS, as I'm sure you know, are both 5.1 channel sound. DTS-ES is 6.1 (the extra 1 being a rear center). My understanding is that to get true EX or ES sound you receiver/processor has to be THX approved. Sony, and maybe Yamaha(?), have gotten around this by doing "virtual ES" which means the DSP creates a virtual rear center. Now if ES will down mix to DTS 5.1 I don't know. If you would like, I can try it out tonight and see if it will play in 5.1 as opposed to 6.1. I wasn't amazingly impressed with the DTS mix when I watched Gladiator the first time as the dialog seemed some what muffled.There is an 1999 interview at bettercables.com with David Del Grosso from DTS that talks about DTS and its advantages. How accurate it is, since David is/was the Marketing Director for DTS, is your call. I don't know if it talks about DTS-ES or not.
Jeff
Thank you for your help one dark cat.
The DTS-ES would not down mix. I can turn off the rear center but it still shows it as a 6.1 signal.And the EX refered to DD-EX, also 6.1 I believe, although, it could be 7.1.
Jeff
You are right, DD-EX is 6.1. This is what the new star wars was mixed in. DTS-ES is their answer to it. I have Gladiator and have the same problem. Not wanting 6.1, but 5.1 DTS. I actually prefer DTS to DD. I am wondering if this will be the same problem on the new release of T2. It seems to be such a new format that they(dts) would not give only one option.regards, dave
I listened to the Gladiator and picked dts and don't remember anything about dts-ex. I just choose dts and it played just fine. I have a sony dvd and it "does" dts as does my amp a parasound 2500.
According to the WSR Review , the DTS-ES is backward compatible. Scroll down to just past the Story Synopsis section where there is detailed information on the soundtracks and quality, options, etc.Hope that helps.
-- Greg
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