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I recently purchased this receiver to drive Definitive Technology BP 30 speakers and associated rears, center channel and subwoofer by Def Tech. I also purchased a 65" Mitsubishi hdtv wide screen TV for my video. The DVD/SACD player is Sony DVPS9000ES. I recognize my speakers may not be broken in properly yet, they have only approximately 30 hours on them, but I am very disappointed with the sound and honestly feel like most of it is coming from the receiver.My primary concern is the proper setting for most DVD's with the Pioneer. Can any readers that own this piece of equipment offer any advice as to the best mode for movies? I understand the DSP mode is primarily for music and the THX/Dolby modes are for movies but when I just leave it on 7.1 Standard DVD I don't really feel like it's delivering but nor does it seem to in any mode. The THX mode always reverts back to THX cinema as well.
I would appreciate ANY general or specific comments to get the most out of this receiver. Maybe it's user error but I'm not hearing the crisp sound I was expecting for a receiver I don't consider inexpensive.
I should note that my downstairs room is Classe SS25 with Classe amp at 300 wpc and Hales Transcendence 8 speakers. This gear is considerably higher priced and in quality but don't think it's just a comparison issue. Any comments would be appreciated!
Thanks
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It is certainly easier to expect more than you get. I myself own the VSX-24TX and love it, I find that either the THX CINEMA or standard modes are the best sounding for DD movies, and just good old fashioned pro logic, either THX CINEMA or standard once again work best for VHS and LaserDisc(My LD has no RF out, which is fine, since the 24TX has no demodulator)
If you find it lacks clarity, try another reciever in your setup to see if that is the problem. It could be your speaker setup or any other part of your system, or maybe the receiver just doesn't mate well with your equipment. A separate power amp might help if the 37TX has preamp outputs. A change in speaker cables to one with lower inductance might improve speed and clarity significantly. Mine loved braided cat5. Just be careful with the lengths if you do this, it's very capacitive and can cause problems as a result.Good Luck. Maybe it just needs to break in.
I have a VSX-36TX that I use with Dynaudio Audience speakers connected with Analysis Plus Oval 12 speaker cables. I do not hear what you do. The sound is clear, dynamic, and holographic.The best place to start troubleshooting is to play a CD in straight stereo mode (no DSP) and see what's happening. Also, since your speakers are bi-polar - "BP" - their placement is more critical than with many other types of speakers. Just for fun (and if you like carrying speakers around your house) you might try your Hales on the Pioneer. That might be interesting!
As with Hales, the Definitive Technology BP 30 speakers may require 100 hours or more to break in properly. Often during break-in, a component will initially sound just fair, then go to really crappy sounding before opening up and sounding good. You may be experiencing the "crap phase" of break in. :)
Like you, my "downstairs system", which just happens to be downstairs, is a bit better: Well Tempered Reference/van den Hul Black Beauty, CAT Ultimate, and Atmasphere M60 mk.2 OTL amps driving Merlin VSM-SEs with 2 REL Strata III subs. Of course the Pioneer is in a different league, but still, it is the center of a very listenable and enjoyable system.
I earlier auditioned the Elite 27TX. I believe the 2 are very similar. I pretty much heard what you are describing. The midrange and lower treble just lacked clarity IMO. Other's describe this as a warm sound, but I found it muddy sounding. I found that the Denons and Yamahas delivered sound that pleases me more. I eventually went with the Yamaha RX-V2095. If the Denon AVR-4800 wasn't so expensive, I would had went with that for it's added features. The sound to me, wasn't any better than the 2095, so I still got great performance IMO.Maybe you have the cinema EQ enabled. That rolls off the treble and high midrange if your hearing this is HT. My experience on the sound of the 27 was based in the stereo mode, which I prioritize.
Don't think I'm saying the 37TX is bad, but if you have the same preferences as I do, you won't like the 37TX's sound.
Since you just purchased the receiver, why don't you try an exchange. That way you'll know if it truly is the receiver.
Good luck on finding a solution to your problem.
I just recently auditioned Def Techs, Tannoy, and B&W's with the intention (based on a review) of buying the Def Techs. After listening to both the ProTower 400's and the bipolars you mentioned, I felt disappointed as well. To me, the Def Techs had a sound I can only describe as someone talking thru cupped hands.
I also own a Pioneer Elite receiver and I guess my point here is that I would place the onus on the Def Techs before I would the receiver.
P.S. - I wound up getting the B&W DM604's and couldn't (for now anyway) be happier.
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