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Anyone knows how can I use the speakers of my audio system as front speakers of my AV System?One of the possible solutions I know: Every time it is necessary to use the AV System, disconnect the speakers from the power amp and connect them to the AV Receiver. It's boring and ridiculous...
Power-amp: Plinius SA100
Pre-amp: Plinius M16
Main Speakers: Sonus Faber Guarneri
Sub: Sonus Faber Gravis
Center: Sonus Faber Solo
Rear: Sonus Faber Wall
DVD: Sony DVP-S735D
Receiver: Onkyo TX-DS696
Thanks in advance and Best Regards,Afonso
Follow Ups:
... so that the input to the main stereo amp & speakers toggles between the output from the Plinius M16 preamp and the output Meridian 861 processor. If the switch is set to the Plinius M16 then the Meridian is not switched on so an uninterrupted analog stereo signal goes through from the M16 to the Plinius stereo amps.In your case substitute the output from the Onyko for the 861 above.
But maybe you only have amplifier, not preamp output from the Onyko. This would involve a 4 pole rather than 2 pole switch. The switching would be -
Stereo speakers -> 1. Onkyo amp output
-> 2. Plinius SA100Plinius M16 -> 1. No connection
-> 2. Plinius SA100This would mean that in position 1 only inputs to the Onkyo would play through the system. In position 2. only inputs to the M16 would play and they would only go through the main stereo pair. You could not use any Onkyo DSP modes on the M16 inputs unless you fed the second output from the M16 in as another Onyko input (what we do).
Use a high quality switch. We remote control ours via a 12 volt supply but a physical switch would be fine.
BTW we find the Meridian 861 does not audibly corrupt the analog signal so have found our switching system somewhat redundant!
Hope this helps.
John
... that when the change over switch is used that the ground is switched first if using single ended connections, this may be system dependent though if you have problems or not. I set up a switch system also and at the time I had a Yamaha DSPA1 which didn't like the switching ie 2 pole used for one channel, another 2 pole for other channel, it caused a spike which in turn caused the amp to spike and speakers to jump, horrible sound and a real heart starter.I found by going to a switch that only swapped the hot center signal and joined ground return signals stopped the spike and luckily the speakers weren't damaged. I use balanced cables now and go through the hassle of physically changing the cable so I get direct, no more connectors in the chain, when I change from audio only to HT.
Good idea, you just need to experiment abit. Good luck.
Regards Robert.
A more direct answer for your Onkyo TX-DS696 receiver:Take out the L&R pre-out to amp-in jumpers from your Onkyo and connect from this L&R pre-out to an open L&R input pair on your Plinus M16 preamp (does it have a unity gain input pair?).
Connect TT and CD to the M16. Connect the M16 to the Plinus SA100 for the L&R mains.
Now you can listen to 2channel without turning on the Onkyo at all.
Connect center, surrounds and sub to the Onkyo TX-DS696 receiver.
When attempting to calibrate the speakers for HT you will need to initially adjust volume on the M16 to get the main speaker levels to a 75dB reference level volume for the Onkyo. Record or mark this volume level on the M16 for HT use.
bstan
Please see example in this threadhttp://www.audioasylum.com/audio/general/messages/153807.html
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bstan
Try this thread, it explains your question.
If the Onkyo has preamp outputs, you can use the tape loop in the Plinius, assuming it has one. In my system, I have an Audio Research preamp driving two channels of a Bryston 5B-ST in stereo mode. In home theater mode, I turn on the tape monitor switch on the preamp. The tape outputs are hooked into an input on my Marantz AV-9000 preamp/processor. The signal goes into the Marantz for Dolby Pro-Logic processing, and then comes back into the preamp after being processed. It then goes out to the amplifier to provide the sound for the left and right front channels, with the mono center channel information having been subtracted back in the Marantz. The thing is that you need to have the volume control on the preamp always set to the same position whenever you put it into home theater mode (I set mine at 12:00 when I initially calibrated it and put it back at that position whenever I do this).Todd
Todd,Let me see if I understood, because I'm a little bit confused...
First of all, I think you’re trying to say, "The tape inputs are hooked into an output on my Marantz AV-9000 preamp/processor" instead of "The tape outputs are hooked into an input on my Marantz AV-9000 preamp/processor", correct?
Second, what do you mean by "tape loop"?
At last, assuming that you are talking about inputs in the preamp, why using Tape instead of Tuner or Video input?
Thanks for your help,
Afonso
No, the tape outputs on the preamp are hooked into an input on the Marantz preamp/processor (I use the CD input on the Marantz, which is available because my CD player is connected to my Audio Research preamp). Then the left and right preamp outputs on the Marantz are connected back into the tape inputs on the Audio Research preamp.This is an example of a tape loop, in which the audio signal is sent out of the preamp for processing, in this case, for Dolby Pro-Logic processing, but tape loops are more commonly used to connect in a graphic equalizer. The processed signal reenters the preamp through the tape inputs. However, not all high end preamps have this feature. When I bought it, my Audio Research LS-3 may have been the only one in their lineup that had it, as I recall.
My preamp has a switch on the front that toggles between monitor and source. When it is switched to source, the unit functions normally. When it is switched to monitor, the signal is diverted out the tape outputs to the processor and then comes back through the tape inputs. In this case, the center channel and out of phase rear channel info has been subtracted by Dolby Pro-Logic processing, leaving just the front left and right channels to go to back through the volume control and to the amplifier.Todd
I happen to have a brand new one so they must still be produced. It;s very high quality.You can switch 2 pairs between one amp or 1 pair between 2 amps.
High quality binding posts and switches. Maybe it's a Bryston pro audio product.
I have a somewhat similar problem. I have a pretty good Yamaha A/V amp (sorry, I don't know the details), but it gives me no option for listening to simple 2 channel stereo! The closest it gets is 5 channel stereo, and so I have placed a high power A/B speaker selector switch at the center channel speaker, and switch it to B (no input) when I want to just hear stereo output. You could use a similar setup with a stereo high power speaker selector switch (Radio Shack), and use input "A" from A/V and "B" from the amp. The Ratio Shack switch is a passive, mechanical switch, rated for 100 Watts. There are other electric switches which will handle more power.
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