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The 9000 ES is built like a tank. However newer progressive scan players with improved chip technology are like empty beer cans. Yet, they are reviewed as being able to produce better sound and picture. Even the Krell DVD player is a lighweight compared to to 9000ES. The new Sony 900P DVD player is also a lighweight but is said to give much better picture than the 9000ES and offers has the benefits of five channel SACD. I have been patiently waiting to purchase a progressive scan player to be used with my Sony 40" KV-40XBR700 TV. I currently have a Pioneer 09 and it is certainly okay. I am willing to pay $2500-3000 for a player. SACD would be great but not necessary. Should I continue to wait? Appreciate some suggestions. Thanks.
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Where did you read about the 900p have a better picture than the 9000es? Thanks...John
Thanks to you and everyone for the great comments. Well, visiting the Sony store here in Chicago, I was informed by several of their sales people that the new Sony 900 V or P unit which offers multi channel SACD sound also has a newer chip for video. Apparently video performance is directly related to the chips used. They claim the cheaper 900V has improved video performance. The unit is rather tinny and cheap compared to the 9000ES. There is not indication that Sony is about to come out with a 900ES. Perhaps I should consider the Arcam DV27??
While I've also heard that other cheaper players marginally outperfom the 9000 in terms of video quality, the differences in video quality among DVD players is miniscule. Also, the "chroma bug" is blown way out of proportion. For audio the only other DVD players that outperform the Sony are considerably more expensive.I bought the 9000 because of its performance, features, warranty, and build quality. While other cheaper players may equal or surpass the 9000 in the first two cases, they don't come close to the 9000 in the last two. I have a feeling the 9000 will be my last DVD player for a very long time.
I read in a review somewhere saying the newer DVP-NS900V has even better picture than the 9000. And it's the best Sony picture yet. It also plays DVD and SACD multi-channel.I have the lower DVP-NS700V and am happy.
I would be very interested in reading a report of the Sony 900V. Thanks for your comments. How about the Arcam DV27 for $2500??
Here's a link:
http://www.whatvideotv.com/testbench/index.html
Sony 9000ES is a champ!As long as you decide to stay with 2ch SACD playback.
Check oade.com for current price of 9000ES.
I payed 1150.00 USD last year (Oct) no tax shipping incl.
Must call for availability, price.
See photo my unit w/cover off. URL below.
Go to HIREZ/search "9000ES"
Thanks for the picture Earl. Wow! Yes, the 9000ES looks like a real heavy duty unit with lots of quality parts. Yet, video performance is related to the type of chips used. Newer chips such as the Faraudja's DCDi chip used in Philips DVDR 1000 are reported to offer much improved video performance. I am hoping the dust will settle soon. It is just too bad that the 9000ES is not upgradable.
Really sounds like if all you are after is video performance and you want solid build quality then the tank for you is the Camelot Roundtable. Look at the shoot-outs, it clearly has been the benchmark. You could get one for under 3G notes.
Yes, it appears that to get the best audio and video performance I will need two separate units. I was thinking about the Arcam DV27 abut $2500. Not familiar with the unit you suggested. Where can I get some information? Thanks for your response.
Is the website but there is reviews all over the place on it. It has been the leading video performer for quite some time now. It uses the newer DVDO-i Chip.
I've had the Sony 9000 for about six months as well. I think it has one of the better pictures out there.Denon is just about to release their 9000 model, which sports some impressive specs. With its Silicon Image chips it just might offer a better progressive-scan picture. No chroma bug this time either. I'll guess it'll be under $1500, so save your coin and buy some great cables to mate it with!
I will look for the Denon 9000 unit. Thanks for your response.
The Denon 9000 lists for US$3500, unlikely you will see if for anywhere near US$1500 this year ;-)Perhaps you are confusing the 9000 and the 3800?
Both have superiour (and identical) deinterlacing solutions to the Sony's Genesis, although Sony did a very nice job implementing this chipset. If you use this player in progressive scan, you see the results of the deinterlacer on every frame you watch.
The same is true of the MPEG decoder you see its work on every frame you watch, and as we've said many times, some are more sensitive than others to the flaw -- but it's definitely there on the 9000.
Thanks for your response. Apparently you have some experience with the 9000ES. I will look for the Denon unit and am also considering the Arcam DV27.
Ron,There are some really good solutions -- look at as many as you can and pick the one that pleases your eyes the most.
Regards,
I have been using the DVP-9000ES for abot 6 months now and cannot imagine that the images from other DVD players could be THAT much better.... the images are stunning and very film-like... does a great job of getting rid of the MPG jaggies on most material.I don't do multi-channel SACD since it would require a significant $$$ investment to get the additional 3 channels up to par with my 2 channel SACD setup.
For movies, DD/DTS is awesome and the surrounds don't have to be Magnepans to sound great.... however the center still needs to be very good...... for multi-channel SACD, i cringe at the thought of how much money and time i would have to spend on getting it to sound like my 2 channel SACD setup... BTW i use the SCD333ES for SACD and the DVP9000ES mostly for DVD (bacause of the investment i have made in the interconnects for the SCD333ES).
-Sam
Thanks for the response. I am considering using the 900ES for video and possibly the SCD XA777ES for full SACD sound. Unfortunately the 777ES does not have the ability to adjust the volume on each channel. Lots of activity this year with new chips for video performance. I hope the dust will settle soon.
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