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Re: Private Ryan: some of it was very realistic

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Posted by Victor Khomenko on July 12, 1999 at 13:36:02

In Reply to: Re: Private Ryan: some of it was very realistic posted by Estes on July 11, 1999 at 08:30:18:

***While you have a right to like or dislike a movie, I must disagree that it was all unrealistic.

This is not what I said. Realism can be understood differently. If I show close up shots on guts and knife going through it then some will say "that is very realistic" and to some degree they will be right. I don't see it that way, however. To me that is just cheap manipulative approach that adds nothing to the art of movie making. We are talking about form of art here, aren't we?

My biggest problem with that "movie" is that it is not what it pretends to be - an honest portrayal of reality. It uses too cheap and tired teenager-type tools in order to achieve its effects. It is irritating and boring. And don't even mention that obsene ending scene.

***I went to the theatre with a WWII vet and he thought the Normandy landing was right on, including the bullets whizzing past. The dead bodies,

We are obviously looking for different things in that delicate media called "movies". I don't need many dead body mock-ups to get the feel of horror. I don't need gallons and barrels of red paint. I don't nesessarily need 140dB sound level. To me all that stuff cheapens the movie. There ARE more subtle and actually more effective tools.

***men getting killed all around you, etc.

Men get killed all around you in the Friday the 13th.

I do, however, expect at least some artistic capabilities on part of someone claiming to be a "director". Spielberg has demonstrated very little in that regard.

***The rest you can take or leave.

That "the rest" is called movie. There is supposed to be something left after you remove the cheap effects. In case of Private Ryan there is very little, unfortunately. But sure, I CAN leave that movie.

***I suggest you find a vet and ask them what it was like, I think you will find that Private Ryan underplayed the horror.

You seem to be fixated on that horror element. I have already stated that I do not get impresed by red paint and display of artificial guts. I HAVE seen and experienced much more powerful tools and shall never forget that effect. For example, the three men dancing in Salo made me shiver with horror. Private Ryan? Ho-hum. Mediocre pretender.

Regards,

Victor.

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