Speaking of "2001," I do a Deep Dive on three different "Also Sprachs."

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Posted by John Marks (M) on May 2, 2024 at 13:56:24

Two by Andris Nelsons (Leipzig and Birmingham), and one by Djong Victorin Yu (Philharmonia).

I have always felt badly about the way Kubrick treated Alex North.

However, I have listened to the entire score North composed, and it is competent but not magical. I think it would have been fine for a different space movie than the one Kubrick co-wrote and directed.

I think that the genre-defying thing about the movie 2001 is that it probably has the smallest amount of dialog of any movie ever, at least among movies that are not about Trappist monasteries that still follow the Rule of Silence. Only in the middle segment (the Space Station and the Moon) is there the normal kind of dialog you expect in a movie.

The first part is grunting apes, and the last part is Jupiter and then Hyperspace.

So, Kubric does not use music to reinforce the action or amp up our reaction to the action. And, AFAIK, there is never any music when there is dialog. The trip from the Space Station to the Moon in the Pan Am space vehicle has no dialog.

So, IMHO, the choice of Khachaturian's "Gayne" Adagio is inspired, because it almost comments upon not only the emptiness of space, but the fact that the two awake crew members don't talk or even acknowledge each other in that scene.

FWIW & YMMV.

john

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Topic - Speaking of "2001," I do a Deep Dive on three different "Also Sprachs." - John Marks 13:56:24 05/02/24 (15)

Ah! A Sprachs diver ! - peppy m. 04:20:43 05/06/24 (0)

RE: Speaking of "2001," I do a Deep Dive on three different "Also Sprachs." - Crazy Dave 07:28:15 05/05/24 (0)

I am imagining you on your haunches waving a thigh bone in front of a Magneplanar (nt) - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 16:52:43 05/03/24 (1)

Amen to all that! nt - John Marks 19:37:48 05/03/24 (0)

Have you seen Apocalypto? - srdavis2000 08:30:27 05/03/24 (0)

RE: Speaking of "2001," I do a Deep Dive on three different "Also Sprachs." - tomservo 07:46:15 05/03/24 (3)

C-V - Inmate51 12:13:48 05/03/24 (1)

RE: C-V - tomservo 13:11:27 05/03/24 (0)

My very first audio show - E-Stat 08:49:51 05/03/24 (0)

I cut my teeth on the Mehta version - E-Stat 06:46:24 05/03/24 (0)

Philip Glass - cawson@onetel.com 02:49:51 05/03/24 (1)

RE: Philip Glass - tomservo 06:34:43 05/03/24 (0)

Also sprach Zarathustra - Chris from Lafayette 02:06:19 05/03/24 (2)

RE: Also sprach Zarathustra - pbarach 11:01:15 05/05/24 (0)

Nelsons Leipzig is wonderful, but Djong Victorin Yu is now My Desert Island pick - John Marks 07:27:40 05/03/24 (0)

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