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In Reply to: He, he ... just the word posted by mvwine on November 27, 2002 at 09:44:30:
Does one great film make a great director? Or, does the director need to do more than one film of a certain "art" stature before he (or she) is considered "great"? (Orson Welles certainly peaked and/or flamed out right after "Citizen Kane," for example.)You see, here's my problem with the entire premise of a director making "art." Movies (and therefore the directors who make them) fall into different categories as to why the movie is considered a classic or great movie.
1. Films that have broken technological ground and have had an undeniable influence (both positive and negative) on altering or advancing the development of cinema.
2. Films that have special qualities of excellence in acting, directing, script or story writing, scoring, or production that have blended together to create a critically-acclaimed "great film."
3. Films that have won major recognition with film awards and other honors from annual film award organizations
4. Films that have a legendary, satisfying, never-fading appeal.
5. Films that represent the peak of achievement for a screen performer or director.
6. Films that are the best and primary examples within a film genre.
People seem to want to limit consideration of a film being "great art" to category #2, and then specifically limit their considerations only to directing, script or story writing.
My question is why?
For example, while Billy Wilder made many classic movies, you never see him thought of as a director of "art" films along with Bergman, et al.
How about "Double Indemnity" (1944)? It was nomnated for seven Academy Awards. Wilder wrote the script, and directed the movie (nominated for both). That was his fourth Acadamy Award nomination for writing and his first nomination for best director (his third movie).
"Double Indeminity" defines the film noir style. So, is Wilder considered a director of an "art" film? Probably not, because "Double Indemnity" was a commercial success, which seems by "art film" definition, to disqualify both the film and director.
Doesn't have the "arty cachet" of a money loser, under-appreciated, great script, film, director - whatever. This is one of main reasons the film snobs depricate Spielberg's films - he has the temerity to actually make films that are popular and make money.
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Follow Ups
- let me ask a few questions... - Fang 10:45:41 11/27/02 (4)
- Different kinds of art - mvwine 11:15:01 11/27/02 (3)
- Re: Different kinds of art - caa 15:17:35 11/28/02 (0)
- Re: Different kinds of art - TA 12:27:15 11/27/02 (1)
- And again, - mvwine 12:51:50 11/27/02 (0)
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