Re: The 8-step "Secret" Hollywood Formula

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Posted by Bambi B on December 13, 2002 at 20:03:13

In Reply to: Re: The 8-step "Secret" Hollywood Formula posted by Victor Khomenko on December 13, 2002 at 17:55:09:

VK,

Yes, the distinction is between Salo and the others is the palpability of the violence, the sensation that is, as you say, true. I sense that you may have a similar reasction to it that I do of combined repulsion with simultaneous admiration for the sheer skill of conveyance(?)

I had a similar reaction to realistic violence the first time I saw Eastwood's "Unforgiven," e.g., the sherrif's (Hackman) beating of English Bob really hurt.

But it was not the relentless violence in Pasolini's. Perhaps Pasolini intended to overdrive his point in an allegory: that fascism contains a necessary relentless violence such that a reasonable person must turn away from.

I don't discount you're suggestion that Pasolini was also just diving off the deep end either. As we now know, he had troublesome hobbies.

Thank you for mentioning Konchalovsky and the marvelous "Lumiere et compagnie". After I saw it, I wanted to build a replica of the cinematographe. It appeared to have about ten parts but it's nature enforced a wonderful series of complex images. I looked up Konchalovsky and he is also the screenwriter of one of my favourites from your part of the world, "Andrei Rublev."

Cheers,

Bambi B

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Topic - The 8-step "Secret" Hollywood Formula - Bambi B 12:24:29 12/13/02 (22)

...is why I like non-Hollywood movies... - SmokeTest 19:09:36 12/15/02 (1)

Re: ...is why I like non-Hollywood movies... - TA 18:03:55 12/16/02 (0)

Is it any different than the strict formats of classic poetry? - cfraser 14:53:36 12/14/02 (4)

Formulas are necessary - Bambi B 20:07:06 12/14/02 (3)

Good response, and the movie "Adaptation" - cfraser 09:43:48 12/15/02 (2)

Re: Good response, and the movie "Adaptation" - Bambi B 11:43:28 12/15/02 (1)

Re: Good response, and the movie "Adaptation" - cfraser 12:20:00 12/15/02 (0)

Don't forget : self basting . . . - Pjay 11:35:37 12/14/02 (0)

GREAT DISCUSSION, all you guys... nt - clarkjohnsen 06:57:43 12/14/02 (1)

GREAT COMMENT, Clark. nt - BS 10:27:34 12/14/02 (0)

Hollywood Formula - TA 13:45:03 12/13/02 (3)

Re: Hollywood Formula - Bambi B 15:58:55 12/13/02 (2)

Bruce Willis dead in Sixth sense - SmoKeTest 19:12:16 12/15/02 (0)

Re: Hollywood Formula - TA 16:31:22 12/13/02 (0)

Re: The 8-step "Secret" Hollywood Formula - Victor Khomenko 12:46:20 12/13/02 (7)

Re: The 8-step "Secret" Hollywood Formula - Bambi B 16:46:33 12/13/02 (4)

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Re: The 8-step "Secret" Hollywood Formula - Victor Khomenko 17:55:09 12/13/02 (2)

Re: The 8-step "Secret" Hollywood Formula - Bambi B 20:03:13 12/13/02 (1)

Re: The 8-step "Secret" Hollywood Formula - Victor Khomenko 05:43:59 12/14/02 (0)

I blame it on the public's lack of monocles! (nt) - mvwine 13:42:08 12/13/02 (1)

You nailed it 50% - Victor Khomenko 15:02:17 12/13/02 (0)

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