In Reply to: Actually... posted by NapTime on May 18, 2003 at 17:11:27:
I was distracted (or in the Gent's).If you are speaking of the speech delivered be "Agent Smith" to the drugged and bound Morpheus in the original film there is no mention of "Free Will", only that the first Matrix was a Utopia which humans rejected because we define ourselves by our suffering ("whole crops were lost"). They simply programmed in a bit of misery. And that is Cosmos. Knox and Schopenaur rampant! I just played the excerpt from the DVD to be sure.
If that is what you were referring to, you are mistaken. Though, I wish not. I can deal with Descartes more patiently than Schopenhaur!
If there is a quote in the 2nd movie that I missed, just tell me where it is. When I buy the DVD I will check it out. I certainly don't intend to suffer through the ill mannered audiences in a NYC theatre again (well, maybe a mid-week matinee).
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Follow Ups
- I do not remember any such in the 2nd movie, perhaps - Auricle 18:09:40 05/18/03 (8)
- You missed it. The Architect discussed free will <nt> - kSpace 21:49:14 05/18/03 (7)
- Au contraire, he said "Choice", not "Free Will" - Auricle 07:10:27 05/24/03 (5)
- Literal vs Implicit / Choice vs Free Will - kSpace 00:21:56 05/25/03 (2)
- Re: Literal vs Implicit / Choice vs Free Will - I.Kill.Hackers 20:00:40 05/25/03 (1)
- Re: Literal vs Implicit / Choice vs Free Will - Hawklord 06:06:28 06/01/03 (0)
- it's stimulating art-philosophy - njjohn 16:23:29 05/24/03 (0)
- Re: Au contraire, he said "Choice", not "Free Will" - NapTime 09:15:33 05/24/03 (0)
- Yes - NapTime 18:09:24 05/19/03 (0)