In Reply to: Re: Exactly right- internal logic posted by rico on November 29, 2003 at 09:27:02:
rico,Yes, the finacee was the thinnest character in terms of a stereotype of an arrogant rich person contrasting with Leo as the indefatigable class-blind lover of life. I know something of the social style of early 20th Century England and America and Winslet's finace- obsessing over Leo, planting the giant diamond on Leo was just silly. A person in his position (with a promenade deck first class suite) would've waved his little finger and Leo would never have been seen above the water line again. Ships were more stratified socially than on land and under strict controls.
And Winslet, would've grown up wealthy in a protective atmosphere, while tolerant of and patient with the lower classes, would in reality just not had had conversations with Leo. Had he saved Winslet's life, a few dollars reward and a letter of reference would have changed hands. And for an engaged woman in 1912 to pose nude would've branded her a prostitute and she would be thrown from probably all the society she knew. BTW, the nude sketches shown of Winslet were personally drawn by Cameron.
The attempt of Cameron to demonstrate a kind of American social equality is a non-historical overlay, and that scenario only might have occurred among radical progressives in the 1920's but not pre-war England. Americans are eager to think of themselves as open and democratic from the beginning, but think of the treatment of blacks in 1912 America- or 1962 America for that matter, the '20's shootings of labour organizers- class strata was very strong.
Again, it all works only as a fantasy/memory- clouded by extreme age!
I can't speak to the DVD, but I'll ask if there are any other versions in the making. Cameron's interests seem to have changed since 1997.
Cheers,
Bambi B
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