I'd agree completely with this, but it won't get through to critics.

Posted by Audiophilander (A) on May 3, 2019 at 12:45:26

In Reply to: I know it's asking a lot... posted by Steve O on May 3, 2019 at 05:26:29:

We know some classic movie buffs here hold superhero flicks in very low esteem. You can tell'em that it's just escapist entertainment 'till your blue in the face. They don't care because it's outside their comfort zone.

There'll always be folks who turn up their Grey Poupon noses and scoff at the public's taste. Debating the salient points of any fantasy epic or modern mythology with folks who run to their nuclear silos at the mere mention of the Marvel Universe is usually a futile effort. Those who've already concluded that the decline of Western Civilization is due to Hollywood's focus on big budget superhero films are probably beyond persuasion.

Still, there's always hope, but recommending Infinity Wars won't convert skeptics. It has too many of the canards that super hero curmudgeons love to rail against. Personally, I think it's an excellent film, but very much a traditional superhero good vs. evil battle plot designed to satisfy action fans first while not fully contemplating the underlying tragedy of what is waiting just around the corner. As a set-up it's fine, but fails to provide much context to the human pain that will follow. For fans, it's the perfect teaser, but it does nothing to appeal to critics who aren't tuned in.

Avengers: Endgame dispenses with a lot of the prior film's build-up to deal with the after effects and human grief of how these former heroes cope with monumental failure and their own personal losses. Fortunately, there's enough back-story to make sense of the key precursor events while not dwelling on flashbacks except where deemed essential to move the current story forward.

Endgame's story stands on it's own, ingeniously plotted to bring everything to a logical conclusion. Not throwing too much at the audience at any one time, but letting individual stories and how each character adjusts to personal loss breathe. There were bound to be a few bumpy plot points, precious coincidences and time/space conundrums in this massive an undertaking. What's remarkable is that most plot points were resolvable within the framework of the science fiction and fantasy constructs of the tale and hold together quite well.

Bottom line, this is a Victor friendly superhero film if there ever was one. Whether doubters will pick up the gauntlet thrown down and make the effort to see Endgame before opining on it is anyone's guess. Trust me, the classics will still be available after the final credits roll.

Cheers,
AuPh

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Topic - Avengers: Endgame shatters box-office records with a $1.2 billion global debut... - musetap 10:54:48 04/28/19 (35)

I get all the superhero movies/characters mixed up - BillH 06:03:43 05/03/19 (0)

surprise, surprise. Nt - geoffkait 11:05:30 05/02/19 (0)

Just saw where Downey got $75M for his ..... - Billy Wonka 13:07:47 05/01/19 (1)

RE: Just saw where Downey got $75M for his ..... - JDK 17:14:41 05/01/19 (0)

Maybe I'll go see it - violinist3 12:35:44 05/01/19 (0)

RE: Avengers: Endgame shatters box-office records with a $1.2 billion global debut... - beach cruiser 05:13:24 05/01/19 (0)

Actors age; super types don't. - free.ranger 14:55:52 04/28/19 (1)

All teen girls are in love with Tom Holland (the new "Spider Boy") - JDK 22:04:40 04/28/19 (0)

Dumbimng down never stops. - Victor Khomenko 11:08:07 04/28/19 (26)

have you seen the movie? - beach cruiser 04:38:54 05/01/19 (8)

To be fair, Victor may have a catheter bag with a 2 1/2 hour limit. - Audiophilander 02:08:50 05/02/19 (7)

Care to tell us an more about said novel?... - musetap 13:25:00 05/05/19 (2)

Wolfhunter River, the third book in her Stillhouse Lake series. - Audiophilander 01:14:56 05/06/19 (1)

Very cool (congrats to her!) - we'll be checking her novels out!... N/T - musetap 20:45:46 05/06/19 (0)

:-) I like it when you talk dirty to me! :-) - Victor Khomenko 14:05:53 05/02/19 (3)

Well, Endgame is a long movie, but fortunately... - Audiophilander 02:46:48 05/03/19 (2)

I know it's asking a lot... - Steve O 05:26:29 05/03/19 (1)

I'd agree completely with this, but it won't get through to critics. - Audiophilander 12:45:26 05/03/19 (0)

Is escapism such a horrible thing? - David S. 13:59:59 04/29/19 (15)

Idiocracy... - musetap 20:47:56 04/29/19 (3)

If you want idiocracy, try Star Wars . . . - Billy Wonka 14:34:50 04/30/19 (2)

LOL! I surely TRIED Star Wars... - David S. 15:26:10 05/01/19 (0)

Star Bores for 30+ years and counting... a one trick pony... - musetap 20:41:39 04/30/19 (0)

With that much escape going on one can't help but wonder... - Victor Khomenko 14:32:40 04/29/19 (10)

I'm with David S. - grantv 14:14:07 04/30/19 (9)

Don't be super-sensitive - Victor Khomenko 06:35:26 05/01/19 (8)

Not being super-sensitive - grantv 06:49:56 05/01/19 (7)

Escape takes many forms - Victor Khomenko 07:03:16 05/01/19 (6)

RE Roma: I infer that you liked Roma - So did I! . . . - goldenthal 14:34:38 05/04/19 (0)

RE: Escape takes many forms - RGA 17:19:27 05/01/19 (1)

It was, same day. nt - Victor Khomenko 18:31:46 05/01/19 (0)

All it tells me about society... - grantv 12:26:29 05/01/19 (2)

RE: All it tells me about society... - RGA 17:26:38 05/01/19 (1)

He-he... Bill Maher... never imagined that. :) - Victor Khomenko 18:45:29 05/01/19 (0)

And no one ever will... - musetap 14:46:24 04/28/19 (0)

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I'd agree completely with this, but it won't get through to critics. - Audiophilander 12:45:26 05/03/19 (0)

I'd agree completely with this, but it won't get through to critics.

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