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RE: An interesting take on SPR versus SiL

Posted by RGA (R) on April 9, 2020 at 05:10:07

In Reply to: RE: An interesting take on SPR versus SiL posted by jamesgarvin on April 8, 2020 at 18:48:48:

And even the ones who do spend the time to vote - if you're an actor and you worked for and liked the director of picture A and you worked for and thought the director was an ass and he is also up for the award - well I think you're voting for your buddy.

I tend more to look at the nominees and decide for myself - what is that old saying "it's an honor to be nominated" and perhaps that truly is the honor.

There just never is consensus - The New York Film Critics Circle chose the Irishman as best film - and maybe that makes sense if you grew up in New York. I like gangster films - GoodFellas is one of my 10 favorite films and I liked several other Scorcese films but the Irishman to me was good but not great. I would not have nominated it.

I have a film director friend who is working with Steven Spielberg and Aaron Sorkin on the upcoming movie the Trial of the Chicago 7. He was the guy who pushed me to see JoJo Rabbit. Which is the movie I wound up wanting to win best picture. His favorite film though was Parasite.

He is about 15 years younger than me and from the UK. All of these things influence a person's vote. I can't tell you how many people say that Citizen Kane is the best film ever made - by anyone from any country. I have struggled through it 3 times to try and get into it. It's the same for Casablanca. I do not see the greatness in story, dialogue or performance to be blunt. Cinematography is spectacle which for me carries less weight and it did for Plato as well.

Although it does seem that most of the reviewers who rave were alive at the time of release and saw it on the big screen. So a 75 year old who saw some of these era films at the time will have a different take on them and were heavily impacted by them at the time.

I can watch 1970s Tom Baker Doctor Who to this day because I grew up on the show when I lived in Wales - "Would you like a Jelly Baby?" This was rip roaring time and space gold I tell you. Ask anyone who is 20 years old to watch it and they will think they're watching Plan 9 from Outer Space.

So I give up now. If something I like gets a nomination or any win in any category I am happy for the people who made the film because they made something that made me enjoy watching it. I don't get pissed if it didn't win. I mean almost always my choice hasn't won.

JoJo Rabbit got some nominations - it won best adapted screenplay and several awards from other outlets.

I remember the 1994 Academy Awards - Pulp Fiction and Shawshank Redemption were my two favorite movies that year. In that order. And it wasn't really close to me - these were head and shoulders better than the other films nominated and I ranked Quiz Show next.

But I knew Pulp Fiction had no chance to win because it didn't really have a powerhouse actor at that time - a relative unknown as a director. And the subject matter had a guy with a watch up his ass for FIVE LONG years and a store owner with a dungeon who brings out the gimp to rape black men! LOL - There was no way in hell that film was going to win. Now maybe but not back then with the old guard voting.

No one saw the Shawshank Redemption and it was a prison movie. Though it became the most rented film in movie history so it got the bucks back later.

That left Quiz Show (a movie that also went largely unseen) and also didn't carry a big name cast.

Four Weddings and a Funeral. The token throw in Brit comedy or Period Piece movie that almost never wins.

That left Forrest Gump - an amiable film the shows that even some dumb schmuck can become hugely rich and successful. That plays in the US like gangbusters. The dumbest person can win - gee it was certainly foreshadowing.

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