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In Reply to: It is basically truth, but with lots of dramatic license. posted by free.ranger on May 3, 2020 at 13:39:01:

Movie: Shelby is depicted as nearing the end of his rope, and aligning with Ford was a lifeline.

Fact: Shelby began in early 1962 by combining a Ford V8 with chassis from AC cars in England. By late 1963 Shelby and Cobra were dominating US sports car racing and humiliating the Chevy Corvette racing program. Ken Miles was a key development driver and Cobra employee.

Movie: Ford tries to buy Ferrari, fails then pledges to defeat them on track.

Fact: Movie accurately depicts Ford's attempt to buy Ferrari and then pledging to defeat Ferrari at LeMans when Ferrari turns Ford down (and leverages Ford's interest into an injection of cash from FIAT).

Movie: Ford develops the GT40 and Shelby convinces Ford to let him run it.

Fact: Ford tried to run the GT40 program and publicly failed. Shelby, having already succeeded in the US, is brought in as a savior for the program. Shelby and co heavily modified the GT40 and it wins its first race at Daytona 1965.

Movie: Ford tries hard in 1965, and fails again. Miles is pointedly left out of the driver lineup.

Fact: A combination of faulty parts, and Ford's insistence on running the big block 427 engine leads to failure. Ken Miles not only drove in the race, but shared a GT40 MKII with Bruce McLaren who won the following year.

Movie: Leo Beebe was a prick who hated Ken Miles

Fact: Leo Beebe was a senior manager for Ford, charged with overseeing the investment Ford made in Shelby and the GT40. He made decisions from a corporate perspective. HE DID NOT HATE KEN MILES.

Movie: Ken Miles hated Ford

Fact: Ken Miles enjoyed working for Shelby and Ford

Movie: Beebe suggested the 3 abreast finish

Fact: Beebe suggested the 3 abreast finish and all agreed- Shelby etc included.

Fact: There was pushback after about how Miles was screwed.

Better to have a flawed movie than none at all.....

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Topic - Ford v Ferrari - Rod M 18:29:51 05/02/20 (9)

Ferrari! - c1ferrari 23:40:44 05/20/20 (0)

Just saw it, too. - jedrider 08:38:39 05/14/20 (0)

RE: Ford v Ferrari - Mike B. 15:31:20 05/03/20 (0)

Documentary - Victor Khomenko 12:00:48 05/03/20 (4)

It is basically truth, but with lots of dramatic license. - free.ranger 13:39:01 05/03/20 (3)

A LOT of fiction - Ross 11:35:56 05/06/20 (0)

I wonder if Miles was really that erratic? - Billy Wonka 11:26:59 05/05/20 (0)

RE: It is basically truth, but with lots of dramatic license. - Rod M 20:41:34 05/03/20 (0)

RE: Ford v Ferrari - RGA 22:16:16 05/02/20 (0)

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A LOT of fiction - Ross 11:35:56 05/06/20 (0)

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