Re: Superman the movie, of course, which could

Posted by Analog Scott (A) on July 18, 2004 at 10:48:18

In Reply to: Superman the movie, of course, which could posted by tinear on July 18, 2004 at 10:18:05:

"be discovered from the context (if I meant the 2 or 3, I'd have qualified:"

OK, I just wasn't sure. I fail to see many of the kinds of problems in Superman that I cited in Spiderman II.IMO Superman is vastly superior to Spiderman II. The set ups were not contrived and illogical within the mythology that the movie establishes. Superman's/Clark Kent's problems do not defy basic human rationality as far as I can remember. I also have no recollection of such heavy handed shots as the ones I cited in Spiderman II nor do I recall such a chessy ending as per my complaints of Spiderman II. I fail to see any of the failings in Superman that I cited in Spiderman II based on my memory of Superman.

"you didn't have a similar prob w/Batman?)."

Actually I did but I thought it would be obvious via my comment on Superman. I didn't particularly like Batman either.

"I was discussing plot: Hamlet's is weak and much of it is contrived."

You are talking about one of the greatest plays ever written. I completely disagree with your opinion. The plot is one of the greatest ever written. But feel free to cite anything in the plot that is contrived other than the established mythology in the play.

A guy walking around for 4 hours wondering if he should kill his Uncle whom a ghost has told him killed his Dad. Right. Brilliant.

That is a really poor synopsis of the plot.

"If you know much of Shakey, you know he borrowed plot lines."

One can argue that plot lines are always borrowed. But please feel free to cite a play predating Hamlet that closely follows the plot of Hamlet.

"He didn't care about it,"

I think he did.

"he was after something bigger."

He was an artist of unique stature amoung all artists ever. He is the only one to arguably be the very best at his art. The comparison between Hamlet and Spiderman II is very hard for me to address without being just plain insulting. I think it is absurd.

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Topic - !!SUMMER BLOCKBUSTERS!! Which to see? - jusbe 15:18:06 07/16/04 (21)

Quick, before it leaves theaters, see... - Harmonia 12:57:09 07/19/04 (1)

I, Robot as a Will Smith Vehicle - mvwine 07:24:46 07/20/04 (0)

Re: !!SUMMER BLOCKBUSTERS!! Which to see? - TA 18:06:19 07/17/04 (0)

Spiderman 2 is the best so far this summer... - mkuller 11:44:16 07/17/04 (0)

Spider-Man 2 is lots of fun and even kinda moving. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:10:05 07/17/04 (9)

Re: Spider-Man 2 is lots of fun and even kinda moving. nt - Analog Scott 09:27:25 07/17/04 (8)

Did you prefer "The Hulk"? - TAFKA Steve 14:13:36 07/17/04 (1)

Re: Did you prefer "The Hulk"? - Analog Scott 09:07:57 07/18/04 (0)

Why is it bad? - jusbe 10:51:57 07/17/04 (5)

Re: Why is it bad? - Analog Scott 12:04:55 07/17/04 (4)

Many of your arguments about plot similarly would eviscerate Batman, - tinear 17:22:55 07/17/04 (3)

Re: Many of your arguments about plot similarly would eviscerate Batman, - Analog Scott 08:29:52 07/18/04 (2)

Superman the movie, of course, which could - tinear 10:18:05 07/18/04 (1)

Re: Superman the movie, of course, which could - Analog Scott 10:48:18 07/18/04 (0)

Just saw the Brasilian flick "Carandiru." NOT a classic, - tinear 18:44:50 07/16/04 (2)

"10-4, good buddy." - jusbe 05:59:31 07/17/04 (1)

It's gotten a bit civilized, which ain't - tinear 06:19:46 07/17/04 (0)

Wait for Alien Vs. Predator for knuckle dragging thrills . . . . n - albee33 17:05:46 07/16/04 (0)

I'd recommend skipping all of those. nt - PdL 16:03:56 07/16/04 (2)

'Twas just for fun mind you. - jusbe 16:25:26 07/16/04 (1)

Yeah - sparse pickin's these days at the theatre. - PdL 20:16:17 07/16/04 (0)

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