Re: :Downfall" - the Hitler's final days

Posted by jamesgarvin (A) on August 29, 2005 at 15:02:57

In Reply to: Re: :Downfall" - the Hitler's final days posted by Victor Khomenko on August 29, 2005 at 13:31:58:

"One minor correction - Hitler invaded Russia not in winter, but in June."

Then if the campaign failed given better weather than I thought, it was even dumber than I thought. Perhaps he should have started in the Winter, then met with good weather when the troops are more tired. But then he was a madman, reasoned decisions are not par for the course. In any event, the world was better served by his mistakes.

"I come from a very different background, where no such lighthearted treatment would ever be possible, and where you learned early on how truly anti-human the Nazi were"

I think that most American war films were not designed to educate, but to entertain. Of course, these things are not mutually exclusive. John Wayne leading the troops, etc. I think possibly the reason is that WWII was not fought on these shores, and Americans did not see first hand the horrors of Hitler.

The comedy aspect probably arose with Mel Brooks. I saw an interview with him in which he explained himself thusly: he was stationed in Europe towards the end of the war. Being Jewish, he had relatives who were exterminated. He joined in an effort to kill Hitler. He was in Europe when Hitler committed suicide. Not being able to kill Hitler, he decided that the only way to "get" Hitler was to make him a joke, people lauhing at him.

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Topic - :Downfall" - the Hitler's final days - Victor Khomenko 12:45:56 08/28/05 (16)

Films like that should not be analyzed using standard movies measures - Corndog71 09:35:10 08/30/05 (0)

A very phony portrait of the man: I don't know if - tinear 17:56:05 08/29/05 (1)

Re: A very phony portrait of the man: I don't know if - jamesgarvin 16:11:55 08/30/05 (0)

Re: 2 quick points to make... - Gee LP 13:49:09 08/29/05 (3)

There are always some What If's... - Victor Khomenko 18:12:27 08/29/05 (2)

Re: There will always be What Ifs... - Gee LP 19:14:34 08/29/05 (1)

Re: There will always be What Ifs... - Victor Khomenko 19:56:22 08/29/05 (0)

Re: :Downfall" - the Hitler's final days - Auricle 13:15:41 08/29/05 (0)

Re: :Downfall" - the Hitler's final days - jamesgarvin 12:45:44 08/29/05 (3)

Re: :Downfall" - the Hitler's final days - Victor Khomenko 13:31:58 08/29/05 (2)

Re: :Downfall" - the Hitler's final days - jamesgarvin 15:02:57 08/29/05 (1)

Re: :Downfall" - the Hitler's final days - Victor Khomenko 18:14:33 08/29/05 (0)

Re: :Downfall" - the Hitler's final days - patrickU 07:39:45 08/29/05 (1)

Re: :Downfall" - the Hitler's final days - Victor Khomenko 08:24:38 08/29/05 (0)

When you see people voluntarily dying with the fuhrer it has an impact . . . - mr grits 17:00:54 08/28/05 (1)

I think you've got it right - Victor Khomenko 06:35:45 08/29/05 (0)

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Re: :Downfall" - the Hitler's final days - jamesgarvin 15:02:57 08/29/05 (1)

Re: :Downfall" - the Hitler's final days - Victor Khomenko 18:14:33 08/29/05 (0)

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