In Reply to: Steve or anyone. Those anti-establishment films. Which are great? posted by edta on July 10, 2000 at 18:47:03:
>A post below mentioned Antonioni's "Zabriskie Point" as anti-establishment.
>Is it? I have not seen it.Much of it juxtaposes scenes of materialism with actions or dialogue which reject that materialism, and the overall impression it tries to convey is that this is (was?) "correct", so I'd agree that it is has a strong "anti-establishment" theme.
>More than that, could there be a genre of anti-establishment films?
>And how would you define it?Interesting question, but I see "anti-establishmentism" more as a theme which can be found across genres rather than as a genre itself, although some films concern themselves so strongly with this theme that they ignore all other concerns - hence the whole film becomes "anti-establishment". "The Strawberry Statement", "Zabriskie Point" and "Easy Rider" come to mind.
Not surprisingly all three are the product of a particular time and social experience. Come to think of it, so are "Dr Strangelove" & "Catch 22" and many others. Hmmm, is it just a phenomena of 1960s/1970s films I wonder?
Favourite one? I guess Roger Corman's "The Trip". It is a poor film in many respects but also has a compelling, naive honesty - everyone concerned seemed to really believe in the value of the (very anti-establishment) experience they were portraying. It was definitely a product of the counter-culture, and not an exploitation of it.
TG
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