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In Reply to: Re: Best Bond film does set a low bar posted by Analog Scott on December 12, 2006 at 08:05:03:
Firstly I disagee with most points you are making regarding style. This is an action film with a character Called James Bond who is supposed to be the world's best killing machine. Therefore he "should" be able to hang in with all the Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan's of the world and not only that beat them! That is the character and the action sequences in this film represent an actor able to do such scenes. The fight scenes at the beginning of this film are stylistically similar to the closing fight scene as well as the fight in the stairwell.Taking the opening Jackie Chan fight scene at the beginning of the film well no need to watch past that if you are not willing to suspend your disbelief. For a James Bond film it was more realistic than most. Believable? Well of course not because if a James Bond existed then Bin Laden's head would be on a stick two days after 9/11. One day of which to get the flight.
The card game scene is a series of convenient plot devices no arguing that from me. It sets up primarily the only one liner in the entire film. Should Bond ask for help - nah this is a rough around the edges epic ego's. Showing weakness - he'd rather die - as it turns out he did. The girl walking by is another convenience to the plot - though she is no dummy and she can recognize that device as heart paddles. Gee there is a wire loose and only one place for it to go - let's stick it in there. So I'm with you on the fact that she happens to be near by at the most convenient time - but not on what to do with the wire. And I am also quite willing in such movies to "fill in" the cutaway scenes. Perhaps she saw Bond out the window and went out to him - or saw him leave the room.
Why Kill Bond in the first place? Well Bond was the primary adversary in the game and look what was at stake.
You point to one action film that is flawless in your view -- how about giving me a list of 25 action films that are superior -- preferably something that made 50 million at the box office so it might actually be available to some of us.
By the way I can write a 3000 word essay on exactly why Citizen Kane and 81/2 are complete pieces of crap - I don't have to agree with what I write but I can write it from a logically strong position. Casino Royale is hardly a perfect film - but it is still the smartest most realistic film in this series aside from perhaps On Her Majesty's Secret Service, but that film was so hampered by it's lead actor as to knock it down several pegs.
Goldfinger? Yeah a guy throwing hats at people to kill them while a robber is going to gas the entire army to blow up Fort Knox to devalue the dollar. And you are worried about the preposterousness of the Bond girl seeing Bond in his car to save his life? I mean Casino Royale is the least preposterous Bond movie of the lot by a lot. It is also the only Bond movie in 20+ years that actually creates a character rather than a cartoon. The merits the film has outweighs some editing and plot convenience issues.
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Follow Ups
- Re: Best Bond film does set a low bar - RGA 05:25:27 12/13/06 (2)
- A list is what you want? OK. But B.O. ios hardly a measure of artistic merit - Analog Scott 11:36:40 12/13/06 (1)
- Re: A list is what you want? OK. But B.O. ios hardly a measure of artistic merit - RGA 00:32:55 12/16/06 (0)
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