yes but mainly no - dave c - Films/DVD Asylum

yes but mainly no

Posted by dave c (A) on December 27, 2006 at 21:08:04

In Reply to: Babel - Crash part II posted by Duilawyer on December 26, 2006 at 07:39:15:

I can see how you came to that, but whilst Crash starts with "we crash into each other just to feel something", Babel is about how hard it is to communicate despite the or because of the information rain falling over us.
On the big level the US won't stop saying "terrorist" and it causes problems getting the helicopter in even after they have said not to send the ambulance. On a small level the Japanese girls can only understand if anyone speaks slowly.
Both films deal with dislocation though.
I thought it was like Crash but more so...
Not just focusing on the USA and for those of us in the rest of the world that is a plus. Remember every time we see another film based in the US we have to make that jump into thinking that is normal.
The stars didn't get to hog the screen, even Pitt and Blanchett don't appear for over 15 minutes and they have no ore in it than the other characters I think.
Possibly the Mexican nanny had the biggest part.
I liked it a lot but I didn't come out feeling good, as it didn't have as much of a feelgood last scene as Crash.
And better for it.

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Topic - Babel - Crash part II - Duilawyer 07:39:15 12/26/06 (15)

yes but mainly no - dave c 21:08:04 12/27/06 (0)

Crash by far is the better film. Hell, even Matt Dillon was good in it. nt - tinear 11:56:23 12/27/06 (0)

I saw it quite differently - Analog Scott 08:45:30 12/26/06 (12)

Re: I saw it quite differently - mr grits 16:08:02 12/26/06 (9)

At the risk of being insulting - Analog Scott 16:26:51 12/26/06 (7)

Your statement is apt - boa2 19:27:10 01/08/07 (0)

Stereotypes come from movies and this one nailed everybody--intentionally or not. * - mr grits 16:42:22 12/26/06 (5)

Maybe I am misunderstanding you but stereotypes do not come from movies - Analog Scott 16:51:24 12/26/06 (4)

I meant nailed with a negative portrayl . . . stereotypes can be created by mass media . . . - mr grits 17:20:20 12/26/06 (3)

That is a relief - Analog Scott 18:26:06 12/26/06 (2)

Well, the guy helping Pitt was the only "redeemable" Muslim . . . - mr grits 21:46:22 12/26/06 (1)

I thought all the Muslims were helping and caring. nt - Duilawyer 21:50:50 12/26/06 (0)

very intelligent insights... - Duilawyer 16:23:37 12/26/06 (0)

No convenient coincidence necessary; to attempt to hold the plot together in Babel, either. - Vinylized 09:45:44 12/26/06 (1)

I agree it didn't *need* it - Analog Scott 13:07:46 12/26/06 (0)

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