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In Reply to: Roberto Rossellini's "Open Door." Yes, it's posted by tinear on February 20, 2007 at 16:41:31:
"I was led to think of the US occupation of Iraq during, ironically, a German officer's speech wherein he mused how the Nazis were creating many enemies, no matter how "noble" the attempt to spread a superior ideology, by filling so many European graves.
The torture scenes, without showing any actual acts, are terrifying. Yes, I was reminded of Abu Ghraib, rendering, and Gitmo.
Funny how great works of art always are topical."Great works of art are "always" topical? Like the Mona Lisa? Or that oil of the fox hunt that sits in my living room? But I digress. It seems based on your ramblings that you were less led to the comparison between Iraq and Nazi Germany than you willingly walked the yellow brick road singing all the way. I am not sure how you were "led" to think of the U.S. occupation of Iraq when a German officer calls their mass murder of Jews, homosexuals, gypsies, mentally retarded, and, yes, even Catholics, "noble", as comparable with the U.S. desire to instill democracy in Iraq, no matter how misguided, in a country historically dominated by tyrants who subjugate their own peoples.
At the end of the day, if the Nazis were successful, there would be no Jews left in Europe, no Israel, which perhaps explains your attraction to the comparison, homesexuals, and no other deviant groups to water down the gene pool. While you may not agree with Gitmo, and Abu Ghraid (who would), the actions of some military personnel is in no way, shape, or form the same as a policy of mass murder perpetrated by a government. Last I checked, the U.S. government punished those who committed acts in Abu Ghraib and Gitmo. And while you may not feel the punishment fit the crimes, consider that after mass murders before and during WWII, Nazi Germany pinned medals on their muderers of innocents. To compare what the Germans did to those aforementioned groups before and during WWII with what took place at Abu Ghraib and Gitmo is ignorant, at best.
"The portrayal of several hideous characters as homosexual unthinkingly is cruel: the Nazis murdered many people for their sexual identities, alone."
More on this subject, I strongly recommend the film "Paragraph 175". I also remember seeing a French documentary, the name escapes me, about the plight of homosexuals in France following the Nazi occupation there.
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Follow Ups
- Re: Roberto Rossellini's "Open Door." Yes, it's - jamesgarvin 07:26:41 02/21/07 (10)
- Re: Roberto Rossellini's "Open Door." Yes, it's - patrickU 08:23:32 02/21/07 (4)
- Re: Roberto Rossellini's "Open Door." Yes, it's - jamesgarvin 09:22:26 02/21/07 (3)
- Re: Roberto Rossellini's "Open Door." Yes, it's - patrickU 01:20:40 02/22/07 (0)
- Re: Roberto Rossellini's "Open Door." Yes, it's - patrickU 01:18:35 02/22/07 (0)
- Re: Roberto Rossellini's "Open Door." Yes, it's - patrickU 09:28:04 02/21/07 (0)
- Ah, always a pound where a pence would do. You need to look up - tinear 07:54:03 02/21/07 (4)
- Re: Ah, always a pound where a pence would do. You need to look up - jamesgarvin 09:33:39 02/21/07 (3)
- What a quibbler! The Mona Lisa's smile is less mysterious or interesting today? - tinear 10:55:09 02/21/07 (2)
- Re: What a quibbler! The Mona Lisa's smile is less mysterious or interesting today? - jamesgarvin 12:59:58 02/21/07 (1)
- I just want to reply so your post may be preserved for posterity. nt - tinear 17:23:32 02/21/07 (0)
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