In Reply to: RE: Oh! I have been through that already. MM is the worst director alive... posted by patrickU on July 14, 2007 at 08:00:46:
he's a "liar and a polemist", but that's like saying you're not a biped, you're a dishwasher and cat burglar.
As for the 'lying', I'll agree there's a certain amount of, umm, "artistic license" involved. Some of which is dependent on a point of view as to it's veracity. But any sane person would admit that any deceit in '9-11', say, is a thimble full compared to the reservoir of lies that the Bush administration perpetuated to get us into this dumb-ass war. Or that the business decisions of GM (Roger and Me) turned a large part of Flint into an urban wasteland. So, taken as a whole, his films express an opinion (his)but one which is generally factual.
And then of course there are the lies spouted to the conservative sheep, mindlessly taken as gospel even though they can be verified or disproved by something as simple as watching the damn movie (see 37th vs. 39th below, which somehow, for some mystifying reason, has become the cornerstone of the conservative's issues with this film)
Oddly, Michael Moore is certainly no film or ideological hero of mine. His attack interview, in 'Columbine', of Charlton Heston (who at that point was a doddering, pants-up-to-his-nipples old man, gracious enough to invite Moore and his crew into his house unannounced) was just creepy, like beating up on a homeless person. And does he really think he can embarrass someone like Phil Knight, who has apparently modeled his business career on Gordon Geko? Just ludicrous grandstanding.
Note, though, that my criticisms are with his film making. I'm not trying to pick apart every word for some misrepresentation that will somehow, if allowed to remain unchecked, send the Republic into a Death Spiral from which we'll never recover. Is the conservative ideology really so weak? Maybe so....
vaya con dios
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Follow Ups
- Well, yes, he is a director, by job definition. You can argue that - powermatic 08:49:52 07/14/07 (20)
- RE: Honestly my diatribe was not worth your answer! - patrickU 09:09:05 07/14/07 (19)
- "For a journalist?" - It depends. Michael Moore specializes in editorializing rather than news reporting. - Audiophilander 00:38:26 07/16/07 (18)
- RE: " His Films are manipulative..." Well you did make some progress indeed! - patrickU 04:54:45 07/16/07 (17)
- Gupta and CNN lost the plot... - RGA 21:20:10 07/20/07 (1)
- RE: Gupta and CNN lost the plot... - patrickU 09:24:58 07/21/07 (0)
- Give him time, give him time. nt - clarkjohnsen 10:07:13 07/16/07 (14)
- RE: Do you really think he will outgrown his short *pants? - patrickU 11:34:32 07/16/07 (13)
- "...as a sign of mourning the lost of Victor..." - Do you bother wearing pants when Victor is around? - Audiophilander 11:53:49 07/16/07 (12)
- RE: Ah! The old Homophobe still got no imagination.... - patrickU 11:57:17 07/16/07 (11)
- Did I say anything about how close you are to Victor? No! - Audiophilander 12:13:14 07/16/07 (10)
- RE: Do you blush when you are lying?* - patrickU 12:48:28 07/16/07 (9)
- The truth: all I did was ask a question; YOU applied the emphasis. - Audiophilander 14:25:55 07/16/07 (8)
- RE: Hypocrite--- - patrickU 02:33:58 07/17/07 (7)
- Well, at least you spelled the word correctly, even if you don't know what it means. - Audiophilander 08:51:33 07/17/07 (6)
- RE: One more point! - patrickU 09:18:56 07/17/07 (0)
- RE: Well, you did not as I can see you edit twice... - patrickU 09:02:43 07/17/07 (4)
- It's too bad that you have yet to learn the skill of proper editing. (nt) - Audiophilander 09:19:13 07/17/07 (3)
- RE: Well, it may be a neurose...That you have.... - patrickU 09:42:45 07/17/07 (2)
- "Now that I am becoming an asshole..." - It happened when you tried to plant the same 'old rose' with new fertilizer! - Audiophilander 11:43:25 07/17/07 (1)
- RE: I trust you.....nt----- - patrickU 11:56:30 07/17/07 (0)