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Aurelio, art is strange and personal thing, as we all know. Just to be "pushing and searching" is not sufficiet for something to be considered art. Dipping Christ in urine indeed "pushes", but only very few would consider that art.

I don't mean to turn this into some philosophical discussion, but since you asked, those two movies do nothing for me, I just get bored and turn them off. I was only able to tolerate perhaps 15 minutes of the Runner, but saw most of the Alien. To me they are waste of time and have nothing to do with art. Most importantly their entertainment value to me is zero.

Now, a movie doesn't have to be "art" to be enjoyable, and I personally have spent many hours watching something silly and sometimes idiotic, but usually those things don't pretend to be anything else.

I am only saying this because a comparisson was drawn between the two completely well, alien, in my view, movies.


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