In Reply to: You are having trouble with the issue.... posted by jamesgarvin on January 18, 2010 at 13:51:23:
I might concede the point to you, but can you please explain what you mean by "This issue is not with Dillinger being a gangster. He was. The claim was that Depp did not act like a 'gangster.' You see, that is called conclusion, and, in and of itself, means nothing. You mean he shit like a gangster?"
So A is A and B is not A. That is a conclusion? Just not clear. Sorry.
I realize that Mann/Depp chose a perspective in which to portray Dillinger and you are defending that perspective--I'm guessing. For you the movie worked. It didn't for me. If their perspective had a little more complexity--say, taming the beast within to be the charming hero in public--I might have enjoyed it. They didn't, and the movie was simplistic...for me. It just lacked meaning, etc.
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- I'll regret this, but... - MaxwellP 14:17:32 01/18/10 (12)
- RE: I'll regret this, but... - jamesgarvin 14:56:39 01/18/10 (11)
- RE: I'll regret this, but... - MaxwellP 05:57:40 01/19/10 (0)
- In your world, "gangsters" are all scowling misanthropes. Dillinger - tinear 21:28:30 01/18/10 (9)
- You carry your daftness from outside to films too, I see... - jamesgarvin 06:47:44 01/19/10 (5)
- What balderdash you write. You may remember a certain lawyer that was a vicious serial - tinear 07:35:02 01/19/10 (4)
- One other thing... - jamesgarvin 09:09:27 01/19/10 (0)
- You've still not answered the question.. - jamesgarvin 09:00:56 01/19/10 (2)
- Uh, no. Depp's portrayal had Dillinger as a regular guy who just - tinear 08:05:27 01/20/10 (1)
- Will you ever answer the question???? - jamesgarvin 10:32:01 01/25/10 (0)
- Dillinger was aware of his "celebrity status" + played up to it - grinagog 01:54:43 01/19/10 (2)
- RE: Dillinger was aware of his "celebrity status" + played up to it - chazro@charter.net 12:16:33 01/22/10 (0)
- I think that is the problem for some here... - jamesgarvin 09:07:14 01/19/10 (0)