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In Reply to: WTF yourself. You made a big point about how those 3-4 scenes created a character "terrifying tragic and real" posted by Jazz Inmate on March 16, 2013 at 08:33:13:
absolutely real, that's why he's not a subject of laughter as was Nicholson's buffoon.
Ledger took a comic book character who's always been portrayed as rather silly and goofy and made him a true villain, a lunatic with an unknown background who may or may not be aware that he has created a changing history of abuse and disfigurement.
The reactions of the "normal" gangsters, so well orchestrated by Nolan, perfectly encapsulated our feelings; at first, derision ("freak!"), and then terror as they realized that he might well not be as "crazy" as he appeared. That, in fact, his persona was camouflage.
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Follow Ups
- So you admit a truth-test for an actor's speech is bullshit. The Joker by Ledger is - tinear 10:42:27 03/16/13 (19)
- No I admit you obviously weren't paying attention to the script - Jazz Inmate 11:09:49 03/16/13 (18)
- Blah, blah, blah. The truth in the Joker's speech hardly matters; it's part of his persona, as I explained. - tinear 12:10:49 03/16/13 (17)
- Hey, maybe you two love birds can argue about who was more important, Frodo or Samwise. - Enophile 15:39:15 03/16/13 (16)
- so you think Joker was the greatest performance in 10 years? - Jazz Inmate 15:45:54 03/16/13 (15)
- If you care to read the post, I said both are fine picks. You dipshits think 'art' is a zero sum contest. - Enophile 16:17:15 03/16/13 (14)
- That wasn't my pick for best. It was just one example to show the inanity of the Ledger proclamation - Jazz Inmate 23:26:38 03/16/13 (7)
- Funny, you attack the Ledger performance then equate it to an excellent one by Bardem. - tinear 09:34:40 03/17/13 (6)
- No, eno equated them. I cited Anton Sigur as one example that rendered moot your proclamation - Jazz Inmate 21:24:02 03/17/13 (5)
- I mistook you for someone with taste, i.e. eno. I'd love to know your favorite acting performances. Go ahead. - tinear 07:48:54 03/18/13 (4)
- My favorites include The Third Man, Taxi Driver, Marathon Man, Barton Fink NT - Jazz Inmate 16:21:02 03/18/13 (3)
- Wrong time frame, Jazz. nt - tinear 07:41:22 03/22/13 (1)
- If you ask a more specific question you might get a more specific answer - Jazz Inmate 16:49:03 03/22/13 (0)
- Maybe it's time for a top ten list thread! * - Enophile 18:17:40 03/18/13 (0)
- Exactamente, it's relative. There is no 'Best' performance - Tony D. 21:15:18 03/16/13 (1)
- I didn't choose a best. Tin did. I simply pointed out the inanity of his choice - Jazz Inmate 23:29:00 03/16/13 (0)
- You cannot seem ever to differentiate. I agreed Bardem is a fine choice. - tinear 17:24:37 03/16/13 (3)
- No reason to differentiate. You're the kind of guy who would argue in favor of having a favorite kid. - Enophile 19:22:55 03/16/13 (2)
- I'd give it to Mickey for Barfly. NT - Poles Apart 11:57:46 03/17/13 (0)
- Of course I'd argue in favorite of having a favorite kid. - tinear 09:32:28 03/17/13 (0)
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