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RE: You see propaganda...

Posted by beach cruiser (A) on January 27, 2018 at 01:55:48

In Reply to: You see propaganda... posted by mkuller on January 26, 2018 at 08:24:43:

I can see what you mean, but doubt the other poster ever will .
Just the way the mind stores things.

Once concepts become beliefs, they are stored in a part of the brain next to religion, and any conflict with the beliefs just causes them to dig in deeper.

Facts become fake, because conflicts with the belief can't be real, only what the mind holds, is real. Even beliefs formed in error, the result is the same. Ask any person who denies climate change for an easy example.

Most I talk to about climate don't have enough understanding to discuss climate from weather, but will fight to the death for their beliefs about it.

I do not contest the value of speaking truthfully, and the need to stand up for the truth.

But, the data is very clear, you can't argue effectively using facts in these situations. You can only unwind the phenomena by trust and small bits of story over time,until truth again is seen as something good for personal growth and society, instead of something of only conditional worth , embraced if it supports held opinions, a plot out to trick you all other times.

"Our tribe is very important and must resist all outsiders" is something humans naturally do, us verses them. And people still resonate to that , it is basic survival and makes a lot of money when exploited on TV news.

However, civilization , going beyond the rule of fang and claw, requires co operation, seeing the potential good in others. Even if it requires loss of comfort to gain the reward, a thinking man will seek advantages that only cooperation brings. Some guys have power issues and will never get beyond fang and claw, constant conflict for boss. Even when surrounded on every hand with the benefits of progress.

Sorry if it sounds preachy and know it all. Trying to improve my skills, and never mean to offend.

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