In Reply to: Golden Globes... posted by mkuller on January 7, 2019 at 08:28:55:
I would not put much or any stock in award shows - I like them for a passing amusement but let's face it - much of it is political and folks voting for or against people based not wholly on the talent. I have read those stories where the voters give their ballots to the maid to fill out.
Plus this is a business and if you spread the awards out to the movies no one sees then it gets butts in the seats. More people are going to watch the Glenn Close film "The Wife" which until she won I never heard of - never saw advertised here at all. Maybe my view is cynical but from a financial standpoint it makes a lot of sense to heap praise on under the radar films.
Plus, I have no doubt some politics and petty issues get in the way consciously or subconsciously.
Lady Gaga is a singer not an actress - yes yes she trained as an actress blah blah blah - but people can resent her MASSIVE global star appeal and will choose the professionally trained actor who had to battle for years or even decades to "make it" as an actor/actress. They will also vote for their "friends" over someone they don't know. Add those kinds of people AND the people who, let's be fair, preferred Glenn Close's performance and there you go.
Plus I really liked her performance (more than the film) but we must admit that Gaga, through no fault of her own, is kind of playing a version of herself. With a similar story Arc.
A good singer who can't make it on her looks but is taken seriously by a major star. Great but this is sort of Gaga. She was a singer in nightclubs playing metal and other genres and until she put the crazy clothes on (to hide that she is no Rihanna in the looks department) she hit it big.
I mean it's in the general ballpark of her life. So that sort of gets a strike against her - unfair as it may be - I suspect that is at least part of why she would not get voted. The argument would be she is playing herself and that isn't acting in the same way as performing totally alien to your persona.
Besides what matters generally is what your peers think. If you are a director and you win the director award from the director's guild that to me counts more than what some reviewer or forum poster with no talent thinks regarding the arts. With cars or toasters or audio equipment that's different but Art is subjective.
Plus, there are other political elements at play these days - the actor's public persona - she is LGBTQ supporter and that will automatically lose her votes (and may gain her some) regardless of the performance.
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Follow Ups
- RE: Golden Globes... - RGA 16:52:08 01/07/19 (18)
- having a bad day? - beach cruiser 06:59:32 01/10/19 (0)
- I agree with you on the "meat" woman.... - TWB 11:36:57 01/08/19 (14)
- Wrong, Joanne was a mature effort and an excellent change of pace - Road Warrior 19:30:58 01/08/19 (1)
- To be fair though - RGA 23:45:38 01/08/19 (0)
- RE: I agree with you on the "meat" woman.... - RGA 18:29:52 01/08/19 (11)
- I see your point.... I am NOT a big fan.... she took an idea born out of Madonna... - TWB 21:43:01 01/08/19 (10)
- Madonna is 60 yo. - free.ranger 11:56:58 01/09/19 (4)
- Now with a big, ugly butt and face . . . - Billy Wonka 13:07:48 01/09/19 (3)
- Really? You think so? - TWB 15:56:20 01/09/19 (2)
- That pound makes a difference . . . - Billy Wonka 20:59:40 01/09/19 (1)
- She's had work done. Oh yeah. - free.ranger 08:19:10 01/10/19 (0)
- RE: I see your point.... I am NOT a big fan.... she took an idea born out of Madonna... - RGA 22:41:45 01/08/19 (4)
- Gaga seems like a decent person when I've seen her interviewed... BUT she has saggy.... - TWB 00:33:03 01/10/19 (2)
- if you think that is saggy.......... - beach cruiser 01:39:16 01/17/19 (0)
- if you think that is saggy.......... - beach cruiser 01:33:37 01/17/19 (0)
- The difference... - mkuller 08:17:49 01/09/19 (0)
- RE: Golden Globes... - mkuller 20:36:44 01/07/19 (1)
- RE: Golden Globes... - RGA 18:14:55 01/08/19 (0)