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RE: Well, this thread kicked off with statistics about the entire installed base of game consoles

Posted by Jazz Inmate (A) on July 5, 2007 at 14:24:37

In Reply to: RE: Well, this thread kicked off with statistics about the entire installed base of game consoles posted by racerguy on July 3, 2007 at 18:11:19:

>> >>That isn't all I'm interested in but you need to face the fact that the major studios and their blockbusters are going to drive the direction of HDTV formats.<<
I wonder where you got the idea that I ever disputed this. It certainly wasn't in anything I've written. <<

It's not that you ever disputed it; it's that you have open disdain for the blockbusters as if it's not tied in at all to what you want. I'm just reminding you that it is tied in to what you want.

>> >>studios should be encouraged to use any tools at their disposal to protect their intellectual property in the regions where they own it.<<
I totally disagree with your stance on this issue. 'Nuff said. <<

Well, out of curiosity, where do you draw the line? Sharing between geographical regions where different studios own different titles is ok. So why have studio distribution at all? Is piracy ok? Where are you drawing the line? You can't say regional encoding is unfair without advocating some degree of lawlessness in terms of content ownership.

>> You're wrong. It has indeed been implemented, exactly in the fashion I deplore. Here's a list someone put together showing some of the discs on the market, and whether they are playback-restricted by region. By and large, the older, less desirable releases are not locked out, the newer ones are. <<

But those newer ones are all available in NA, so it's a nonissue.

>> You're wrong. Region Coding has indeed been implemented in Japan. The thing is that the blu-ray Region Code for Japan is the same as for the US (Region A). So yes, you can take a disc coded for Japan and play it in a US player, but you can't take a disc coded and locked-out for Japan/US and play it in a European player. <<

Ok, I'm wrong, but I can play the disc, so again, it's a nonissue.

>> I wouldn't bet that. There was a REASON why Region Coding was not implemented in HD DVD, and it was not a technical reason. <<

Exactly. And it's one of the reasons that only one studio has come out fully supporting HD-DVD (for now) where the rest will never exclusively support it.

>> >>See, this is where I'm not understanding you. Are you saying that 24-bit 48 kHz lossless PCM sounds as good as DolbyTruHD? <<
I'm afraid I'm not understanding you, because this sentence makes absolutely no sense. Are you comparing identical lossless PCM to lossless PCM and saying there is a difference???? <<

Nope. DolbyTruHD involves an algorithm that compresses the code and requires less space on the disc. They may market it as lossless, but lossless PCM is different.

>> Or are you comparing an apple to an orange, and saying they are different? Of course they are! Please clarify the point you are trying to get across. <<

The point I am trying to get across is that greater disc capacity will let you have better quality.

>> >>Are you saying that data storage capacity and data rates don't matter? That it's just a lie propagated by blu-ray adopters?<<
No, that's not what I'm saying. Try reading what I wrote again. <<

I've been reading every post in this thread. I keep saying that blu-ray provides greater storage capacity and is therefore capable of greater quality and you keep saying it's just hype and that I'm a fanboy and cheerleader. I am trying to get you to acknowledge that there are features of blu-ray that do make it superior to HD-DVD regardless of hype or cheerleading, and the storage capacity issue is a no-brainer.

>> Well, let's see - you've called him a troll in the past, and pretty much accused him of making stuff up. But now you prepared to believe what he posts just because it fits your biases? That's quite a shift in viewpoint! <<

Well actually I was just kidding around. I was pretty amused when DUI said he sold his Toshiba. But yeah, if he's seen the light I'd think everyone should!
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