My issue has never been with Panny's "relative" blacks.

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It's the black crush/lack of shadow detail that's been my issue. Until Kuro, Panny had by far the best blacks. Especially at their price point, especially on brightly lit/outdoor source material. I've almost bought a Panny plasma at least twice. But there's been a price to pay for those relatively deep blacks.

It tends to burn out the whites and crush shadow detail in dark scenes. Panny's better than a lot of the competition but the Kuros beat them rather handily for shadow detail. I would imagine the new models improve upon this. And of course, they'll have their own 10 lumen tech coming out too.

As noted above, I use dark scenes from torture tests like Master & Commander, LOTR and Dark City to audition with. Not many flat screens can do that well. I'd be happy to own a TOPL Panny, but I'd be happier to own a TOPL Pioneer...at least for right now. The target's always moving and I look forward to Panny's new models.

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Topic - Pioneer to stop making Plasmas - jaiva 16:02:15 03/03/08 (22)

here's more info - Joe Murphy Jr 19:45:58 03/06/08 (5)

Pie-in-ear plasma are loudest (noise) in industry - petew 15:06:59 03/25/08 (2)

RE: Pie-in-ear plasma are loudest (noise) in industry - mdavis 14:06:23 03/26/08 (1)

RE: Pie-in-ear plasma are loudest (noise) in industry - petew 15:43:47 03/26/08 (0)

Here's Pioneer's statement. again, the OP got it completely wrong. Pioneer will keep making plasmas - Jazz Inmate 11:26:35 03/07/08 (1)

?* - jaiva 13:32:45 03/08/08 (0)

only production of the panels - Joe Murphy Jr 17:07:43 03/03/08 (15)

Another area where the consumer screwed the pooch - Jazz Inmate 22:30:47 03/03/08 (14)

RE: Another area where the consumer screwed the pooch - Hornlover 07:48:37 03/04/08 (9)

What models? - Harmonia 10:25:24 03/04/08 (7)

the next gen panasonics are all ready out in Japan. The blacks are considerably better* - jaiva 15:55:41 03/04/08 (1)

My issue has never been with Panny's "relative" blacks. - Harmonia 22:06:24 03/05/08 (0)

RE: What models? - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 14:37:29 03/04/08 (2)

This is the famous 10 Lumen tech... - Harmonia 14:51:24 03/04/08 (1)

Cheer for that - I'll wait for details of release date/price. [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 06:18:47 03/08/08 (0)

RE: What models? - Jack G 11:31:26 03/04/08 (1)

Kuro is a great leap forward. - Harmonia 14:56:44 03/04/08 (0)

You're certainly in the majority NT - Jazz Inmate 10:20:28 03/04/08 (0)

there's more to it than that - Joe Murphy Jr 06:37:45 03/04/08 (3)

RE: there's more to it than that - Jazz Inmate 10:19:08 03/04/08 (2)

good old fashioned competition - Joe Murphy Jr 18:25:24 03/05/08 (1)

Ok, but there isn't anything good or old fashioned about it - Jazz Inmate 09:50:53 03/07/08 (0)

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My issue has never been with Panny's "relative" blacks. - Harmonia 22:06:24 03/05/08 (0)

My issue has never been with Panny's "relative" blacks.

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