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RE: Ah, I see you're cheerleading for a new team. Did SONY not pay enough?

Posted by Jazz Inmate (A) on February 19, 2009 at 11:33:47

In Reply to: Ah, I see you're cheerleading for a new team. Did SONY not pay enough? posted by Audiophilander on February 19, 2009 at 09:16:46:

>> You are obviously not very well briefed on this subject. Apparently you think that folks who buy imported movies and television shows are buying bootlegs. Ummm, let me see, how do I put this: NO! <<

Never said you were buying bootlegs or doing anything illegal, so all three of you must have a guilty conscience if your first thoughts ran to that. I said studios can and will protect their home video distribution rights in the regions they have rights to distribute it. Makes sense, huh? If you're not in the region, you should only be able to access intellectual property, including digitally encoded movies, from the company that has legal distribution rights. But buying an imported DVD itself is not a crime and I never said otherwise.

>> Clue #1: Folks who buy imported movies and series do so legally, for a variety of entirely legitimate reasons. All royalties and levied taxes are paid and the studio of origin receives whatever is owed them. <<

Yes, but in many cases that studio only has rights for distribution in a certain region--not where you live.

>> Clue #2: Folks who buy DVDs from other regions may have a favorite movie or series not available at all in this country, or not available unedited. <<

i understand that, but often this arises because of edits that satisfy certain ratings bodies or other regulatory rules. Also, by buying an import and giving your money to a studio that has distribution rights in another geographic region, you are helping ensure that the studio that has distribution rights in your region loses a sale, thereby providing less incentive for them to issue the release. A better course of action might be to write to that studio and request the title.

>> No offense, but do you ever tire of being a pretentious little ass-kisser? <<

I don't see myself that way. Do you see yourself as a burned out leather clad stoner who adopts rebel-without-a-clue mentality on every issue under the sun? That's how I see you.

>> The folks at Oppo chose to bend over and take it in the rear from the almighty BD Consortium (a bunch of egotistical pricks who seem determined to limit the potential of what may be the last sell-through disc delivered medium), but what their management apparently failed to realize is that compliance to the BD Cartel's rules is a "buy-in" to the riskiest Texas Hold'em game in the world. The guys sitting around this table EAT and shit small companies like Oppo because the 'rules' are designed to favor established manufacturers and overprotective studios with deep pockets, not mavericks who've been bucking the system for years. <<

That was pretty stupid, even for you. All formats need to have rules that ensure enough openness, protection and distribution privileges to make it a viable medium. You won't be able to please everyone, but BD abviously pleased more consumers and studios than HD DVD because (I know this is still tough for you to see through the purple haze) HD DVD is dead and buried. Blu-ray is here to stay. Oppo wants to produce a BD player, so it will need to acquire a license and play by the rules.

>> Oppo could have resisted the Consortium's demands for DVD region locking and threatened to move their base of operations off-shore like the after-market market modded players which are growing in popularity (both region AND Zone free, BTW). I suspect that they will lose that edge as a result of the poor decision to 'play' by the BD Cartel's Draconian rules. <<

Thanks for that brilliant analysis, but I think Oppo's staff like things just fine here in the bay area.

>> You STILL don't get it do you? I have a couple of Oppo players already (all earlier Oppo players are region unlocked); I was going to sell one of them and buy the BDP-83, but if the new BD player isn't region free I'll pass and probably end-up buying an after market modded player. <<

Suit yourself. I'll buy the Oppo, if the new model lives up to the company's reputation.

>> When one has multiple players, preamps, receivers, etc., rack space becomes a very real issue. <<

Maybe if you didn't stupidly adopt HD DVD and buy so many HD DVD players, you'd have more room on your rack. By the way, were those Toshiba HD DVD players region-unlocked? Of course not. So it's pretty f'ing hypocritical of you to demand that BD players are region unlocked while holding HD DVD players to a different standard.

>> Oppo let me down here (in more ways than one), but I doubt you'd be able to figure that out even with the roadmap I've provided. <<

Oppo didn't let you down. You let yourself down and now you're blaming Oppo.
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