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Okay, point by pioint....

Posted by rlw (A) on March 7, 2015 at 07:26:24

In Reply to: RE: Okay, now I know I can safely.... posted by stehno on March 7, 2015 at 02:43:55:

"So when I speak negatively about the quality of music for 2-ch. systems you don't have any apparent issues. But when I speak equally negative about the quality of music for multi-ch. systems you have issues? How is that so?"

When you speak negatively about *any* playback system using the hyperbole you do, I tend to dismiss it as the ranting of audiophile snob. Sorry. As for how is this so, it's so because I have a fairly decent multi-channel playback system and many *very* good source discs/files and to my ears they sound very, very good. And I certainly do not hear this atrocious noise floor that you keep referring to. There is virtually NO noise, just a pant load of great music.

"If you disagree with our playback system's levels of musicality, then you give clear indication you know not what you speaketh."

There you go again with the hyperbole. Dismissing out of hand my experiences. That's audio snobbery, IMHO.

"How do you weigh in on this? Do you think Harley, Valin, and Atkinson, and others are out to lunch on this matter?"

Yes, they are out to lunch. Now if someone like Michael Bishop or Bob Ludwig made the same claims, I'd tend to assign more merit to them. But the aforementioned "critics" spend their daze (pun intended) dreaming up new and ever over-reaching phrases for what they claim to hear. And every couple of months they are proclaiming that the latest and greatest - exceptionally expensive - geegaw has now rendered all previous exceptionally expensive geegaws moot. Sorry, not buying it.

I sold top-end systems way back in the day and even then there were moments that were absolutely magical and that transported me to another place and time via the music retrieved from those grooves and pits/lands. We are now 40 years on from that time and the systems and speakers are ever so much better. Believing that I'm missing out on 85+% of the music is just plain silly, IMHO. But feel free to assign whatever arbitrary numbers you wish.

"Do you suppose they have as much or more opportunity than you to listen to live music?"

I dunno. I can tell you that I have been to a shit load of concerts - that's a technical term - and our systems, while not able to convey the size and majesty of the original event due to the limitations of little bitty drivers and the rooms we put them in, they are certainly capable of rendering a very adequate recreation of the event from a frequency response, channel balance, and PRAT (I hate that term) perspective.

And there is most certainly not a hugely elevated level of noise associated with those systems, that's just silly. My system is dead nuts silent until the music explodes in front of and around me. You hear a bunch of noise?

Yes, it does require a bit of imagination and suspension of disbelief in order to fully enjoy these little marvels (our systems) we have before us. And if you cannot summon that I am truly sad for you, you are really missing out on a ton of joy and merriment...








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