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In Reply to: Re: True, but posted by jamesgarvin on February 25, 2005 at 14:24:39:
First thank you for sending such a...complete answer!
And yet a lot disagree... If you see some of the rude answers, you can only think than many are missing them ...The good manners and the respect.
Nothing against a little " heat-up " of course, but in all fairness.
Well with time you learn to know your friends, and, few words may be enough, of course here like in real life it is always a new begining, but some of us stick here long enough to know and appreciate ( ? ) each others....
We have a common knowledge and a same view of a kind of culture, which may call for a few missunderstanding for some, but anyone is entitle to ask for clarification!
So it is not a big fuzz, what Victor or someone else write ...Lame....or worst film of the year ( I did ). Like in a club, there is a kind of common language and thinking, in different faction of course!
Take the discussion of LOTR...You will see how childish but funny it can be sometimes...
Kaka is a kind of take a short way and a word Victor create and with time work well.
The first time, I discuss here with him ( Victor ) it was about " Solaris " he loved it and I wrote " Zzzzzzzzzz " having saw it the first time at the festival of Cannes and then after the projection, the interview with the director Mr.Tarkovsky, which was at the time, even more boring, so we start our film " relation " in this way, but in the mean time I learnt through him so many beautiful " boring " Russian films that it enriched my life...
So that is the meaning, exchanging and learning from each other.
" State your biases up front " Well we try not to have any! And if I say and think that, as an example, Hollywood in an industry with mostly as only goal " money " it is I feel just the truth, industry food can be at best acceptable.
But Hollywood was always an industry, but with some of the moguls back then it was a kind of different, as they also had some artistic pretentions, who I sorely miss today.
Smart people says what the think and as freely they an be. That it why I call them " smart "He-he...
Victor, believe me, has something to say! Make please a research...If you find then that it is not so, so count me in the same category.
And there you are wrong, if you knew how a many did attack me the same way they did with Victor!
The only difference is that I try to a certain point, to have more patience, I have a temperament that is more soft, maybe, and I know that it is mostly a waste of time, because time learnt that. Without any arrogance I hasten to add. If I would be more " practical " I would act like he does.
Trust me, he is one of the finest guy around.
You just have to learnt to know him.
Follow Ups:
I realize these things about both you and Vic. Many times I respect your opinions, but occasionally I need more than simple one liners...especially 'pure offensive caca'. Although, some films are not worth more...:)I expect the intelligent to be able to respond with a little more than that, when it is required/requested. Even in his post, Vic said he would 'discuss later'...well, is it now? By posting here, with such authority, one assumes the position of critic, even if only on an informal/amateur basis.
I like to know what social/cultural/political beliefs color a critic's opinions. This helps me know what to expect from them and about the films they comment on. No, Victor is not Peter Travers, but he has seen many more films than most here, including me, and his opinions matter...but only if he cares to respect the others here, and support his opinions with his reasoned ideas, not just quick, empty one liners...if not for your benefit, then ours.
Respect, like love, can only be had in the same measure as one gives.
Later
D
You see sometimes there are imperatives like private one or buisness like or some times both together.
Gentlemen just donīt ask. They feel.
Well we are the result of so different sensibilities, and of course we are all " coloured " if we would not we would not be human.
The point is the own knowledge of himself and the trying to be as correct with one self and the others, in one word to be honest.
We all are suffering, of " my point is right " " your is not ", but more or less.
Victor respect every one, as long as they shown some willing to discuss honestly. But he will not when attack unfairly he will then give a harsh answer and he is fully entitled to do so.
They looked for it & they got it.
If you want to discuss a given matter he will never not answer you in the most serious way.
Never.
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