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In Reply to: Oddly enough posted by Corndog71 on June 2, 2005 at 09:46:10:
Do you also have Backstreet Boys, Celine Dion and N'Sync (or do the boys from N'Sync write their own stuff, I cannot remember. Maybe that's why they have_so_much street cred?!?) to complete the Max Quartet? It's a free country (wiser minds will argue otherwise), nothing wrong with that. You don't think that Britney is 'great music' though, do you? But you know what, even that is arguing for apples against oranges...what I'm trying to get through is that even within the confines of what it is, SW 1,2,3 are awful. It's as if Lucas came back from his hiatus and forgot how to make a 'working movie'. Naturally Jusbe will be the first to point out that it must surely be 'working' for all the people who are lapping it up like pigs in shit. Well, you know what, I guess that must be the case. I have a friend who loves old kaiju films, and absolutely adores the new Gamera trilogy. But at least he has the good sense to say, at the end of the day, when discussing its relative filmic (yay, there's that word, finally) merits, "You know what, I love it and everything, but it's still a movie about a giant flying turtle." Of course he's referring to content, and what we're discussing here is not even that. I'm just saying techniquewise, the films are really weak. Things like pacing, structure and yes, dialogue. I mean Jesus, how can one be asked to emote or feel anything for the characters when the lines being delivered are so utterly risible? Okay, so that's a subjective call. How about the fact that the dialogue exactly replicates what one already sees on screen (I'm paraphrasing here: "He's been hit with a poisoned dart!" That is after we see this person being hit with a (presumably poisoned) dart. No shit sherlock!)[ Reminds me of some of the old Stan Lee dial..like that classic panel from Fantastic Four, wherein we see the four members slowly disappearing from the waist down, and Reed Richards (if memory serves), utters increduously, "We're vanishing!"] That has a name..it's called bad screenwriting.What's OT? Original Trilogy? 'Return..' sucked eggs too. And I paid extra to get into a charity screening to boot.
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As long as we're being subjective, I disagree that episodes 1-3 are awful. I find them entertaining and have watched them several times. Perhaps it's because I didn't take classes on film-making or how to write a good movie, etc. I could give a crap about technique. The special effects work for me. I remember star wars haters 20 years ago lamenting the puppets! Perhaps I feel more for the characters because I've read the books and already understand their motives and actions.Perhaps the story Lucas wanted to tell wasn't the one you wanted to see. I would be more interested to hear what a 12 year old who watches them in chronological order thinks. Even more so 10 years from now when star wars will just be old news.
Rob CThe world was made for people not cursed with self-awareness
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